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color:#1F497D'>Hi John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The idea is that Alessandro would prepare files in a simple text
format (say a CSV export out of Excel) that would then be uploaded into either
the MMI ORR or the NDG Vocabulary Server. Both of these systems serve standardised
XML based on RDF/SKOS standards (note SKOS is now OWL-compatible). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We’re not the only people heading down the SKOS trail:
semantic web resources serving SKOS are starting to pop up like mushrooms and
Simon Cox currently views SKOS as a potential replacement for the GML phenomenon
disctionary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers, Roy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ontgov-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk
[mailto:ontgov-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Helly John
J.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 April 2010 10:03<br>
<b>To:</b> NETMAR Scenario Ontology Governance<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carlos Rueda; ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk; n.dwyer@ucc.ie;
Alessandro Mulazzani; ican_tech@lists.oregonstate.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OntGov] help for ontology for Atlas of the lagoon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Alessandro.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I concur with Roy. I found Protege to be difficult to
employ and too distracting from the content generation that you need to focus
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<p class=MsoNormal>However, that leaves open the question of what format to use
for your vocabulary files for interchange and interoperability. Roy, do
have anything in mind for specifying this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>J.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Lowry, Roy K wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Hi Alessandro,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My advice would be to stay away from Protégé for what you want
to do, which is to build a fairly straightforward vocabulary of the terms that
you use to describe the features in your Atlas. Initially, I would start
to assemble the knowledge using more familiar tools – my personal
preference is Excel. What you need to build is spreadsheet containing at
least two columns, one for terms (such as ‘lagoon’) and one for
term definitions (such as ‘a body of water cut off from a larger body by
a reef of sand or coral’). I also tend to include a column of
abbreviations as well, but this isn’t supported by all semantic
frameworks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you like, once you have got that far you could submit the
result to me to check out that the content you have proposed will work as a
vocabulary, for example do all the terms refer to the same kind of entity, and
offer suggestions if I think it will not. This work would come under the
remit of NETMAR and so would be attended to promptly. I could also call on the
expertise available in the NETMAR ontology governance group if required.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>When you have gathered your knowledge together, you have two
alternative systems through which to expose it as a part of the ICAN
ontology. You can either hand it over to me to set it up as a vocabulary
in the NERC Vocabulary server, or you can upload the result into the MMI
Ontology Registry and Repository using the toolkit MMI have developed.
Carlos Rueda of MMI gave an excellent Webinar presentation on this yesterday to
the ICAN Tech Team and I’m sure he could make the slides available
to you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My plans for NETMAR involve building a seamless bridge between
these two semantic resources, so it doesn’t really matter which Atlas
vocabulary is in which repository. However, as there are already ICAN resources,
including the master umbrella ontology, in MMI and none in the NERC Vocabulary
Server, it would help my NETMAR development work if you were to allow me to
host your vocabulary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Cheers, Roy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Alessandro
Mulazzani [mailto:alessandro.mulazzani@gmail.com]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>07 April 2010 18:31<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Lowry, Roy K;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:bermudez@sura.org">bermudez@sura.org</a>;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:y.lassoued@ucc.ie">y.lassoued@ucc.ie</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:n.dwyer@ucc.ie">n.dwyer@ucc.ie</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>help for ontology
for Atlas of the lagoon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear ICANers! Hope you are all
fine!<br>
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I am writing to you three believing you are the right persons to ask some help
about ontologies, but please, feel free to forward this email to any ICANer who
can help with the issues below.<br>
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As agreed during ICAN 4, I am finally going to start to create an ontology for
the Atlas of the lagoon of Venice in order to join the ICAN prototype, and I
have some questions:<br>
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I am going to use Protege OWL. Do you thing is that appropriate?<br>
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Are there any up-to-date ontologies already created for coastal atlases by ICAN
or others that I can use as examples, or that should be used as a reference?<br>
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Are there any ontologies for environmental atlases in general which are
becomenig a sort of standard?<br>
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How the ontology can be linked with the metadata catalogue (geonetwork in our
case?)<br>
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Thank you very much in advance for your help!<br>
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Best wishes!<br>
Alessandro<br>
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<a href="http://www.silvenezia.it/">www.silvenezia.it</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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