<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Sorry folks: two ships, two hulls, two
names:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tridens -1968-1991-operated by Fisheries
Institute of the Netherlands, sold to Chase Seismic Survey B.V. (http://www.css-denhelder.nl/frm_info.htm)
in 1991, renamed into Tridens I, now a survey vessel for the offshore oil
and gas industry </font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tridens - 1991 - , operated by Fisheries
Institute of the Netherlands (new ship, new hull, same name)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Both vessels have contributed data to
the ICES databases, so there should be two different codes.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'll find out about the call sign.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Please wait for me before taking decisons
concerning the Dutch research vessels, I'm in a much better position to
find out about their history.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Cheers,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Taco</font>
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<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Hi Marilynn,<br>
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One ship: two names. <br>
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Let us call 64T1<br>
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<class>research vessel</class><commissioned>1991-04-15</commissioned><previous_
name>Tridens</previous_name><notes>Research vessel owned
by Chase Seismic Survey BV. Built 1968 as Tridens, renamed Tridens
I 15 Apr 1991. Length 60.85m, callsign PIAO. Active as at Mar
07.</notes><br>
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This means we are just short of a code for this ship when she was operated
under the name of Tridens by Fisheries Institute of the Netherlands between
1968 and 1991. <br>
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Cheers, Roy.<br>
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>>> Marilynn Sørensen <marilynn@ices.dk> 3/29/2007 12:04:03
pm >>><br>
Hi Roy,<br>
<br>
Is it correct that you are saying that the proposed 64T1 really refers
to two ships? Could you/someone supply the attributes?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Marilynn<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk]
On Behalf Of Marilynn Sørensen<br>
Sent: 20 March 2007 17:52<br>
To: Roy Lowry; platforms@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk <br>
Subject: [Platforms] Netherlands TRIDENS and TRIDENS 1<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
I have checked with Lloyds and have found the following for Netherlands
TRIDENS and TRIDENS I:<br>
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1) Existing NODC/ICES code: 64TD, name TRIDENS, Built 1990, Call sign PBVO,
Notes: IMO8821852, length 73, owner NE govt.<br>
<br>
2) New ICES code: 64T1, name TRIDENS 1, Built 1967 (note not 1993 as in
spreadsheet), Call sign PIAO, Previous name TRIDENS (changed in 1990),
Notes: IMO6812833, length 61, owner Chase Seismic Survey BV<br>
<br>
Marilynn <br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk]
On Behalf Of Roy Lowry<br>
Sent: 29 March 2007 12:51<br>
To: platforms@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk <br>
Subject: [Platforms] Resolving past errors<br>
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Dear All,<br>
<br>
As I try to rationalise the ship codes for POGO I keep running into the
confusion caused by ships being renamed.<br>
<br>
Problem 1: Beautemps-Beaupré <br>
<br>
We have code 35BB which seems to be connected to the current French naval
survey ship (pennant A758, commissioned 2003). Worryingly I have
a note about a 35BB launched in 1939, so it looks like we have another
case of a code transferring from one ship to another.<br>
<br>
I propose that we keep the code 35BB for A758 and have a new code labelled
up for the old 'Beautemps Beaupré', which I don't think had the hyphen.
<br>
<br>
Note the the the name in RECO for 35BB has no hyphen, which I think
is incorrect.<br>
<br>
Problem 2: Tridens<br>
<br>
I think we are now clear that the history is that there was a fishery research
vessel called Tridens, which was sold to a commercial outfit and renamed
Tridens I. A new fishery research vessel came on the scene and inherited
the name Tridens. Again, the code (64TD) was passed from one ship
to another. I think that we need 3 codes here, but we only have one.
My suggestion would be:<br>
<br>
Keep 64TD for the current fishery research vessel Tridens Set up a new
code for commercial survey vessel Tridens I Set up a new code for the original
Tridens when she was operating as a fishery research vessel<br>
<br>
Is everyone, particularly Michele and Taco, happy with this?<br>
<br>
Cheers, Roy. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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