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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Dick, Roy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I disagree with your approach, i know this discussion has
surfaced in the past and we seem to be at the same sticking point. The ‘unknown’
term is fine if it is in fact the case that no information is known about the
vessel, but in these cases something is known and being deliberately overlooked
in order to keep from adding new entries. I don’t like using ZZ99 as a ‘bucket
code’ to place everything in that doesn’t meet with the simple model approach. This
will cause us some headaches in the future with CSR’s if we simply use ZZ99, as
the country listed in the CSR is not necessarily the country where the vessel
was chartered from – and we will lose this information. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So before you agree to lose this information, i want you to
think about whether this is valuable information for someone looking at the historical
data to have access to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Neil.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
Dick M.A. Schaap [mailto:dick@maris.nl] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 November 2010 13:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Lowry, Roy K<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accessions; platforms@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk;
sdn-tech@seadatanet.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Platforms] ROMANIA - MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dear Roy,<br>
<br>
I rather go for a general 'Unknown' term in the Vessel vocabulary than starting
a whole list of:<br>
MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA<br>
MULTIPLE SHIPS OF BULGARIA <br>
etc<br>
etc<br>
etc<br>
<br>
So I encourage using the ZZ99 term and not diluting the Vessel directory with
all new entries.<br>
<br>
Hope all colleagues agree.<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
<br>
Dick M.A. Schaap<br>
SeaDataNet Technical Coordinator<br>
<br>
<br>
On 01/11/2010 11:44, Lowry, Roy K wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear
All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In
cases such as these we should simply use the generic ‘unknown’ ship code
(ZZ99). What guarantee do we have that the flags of these ships were
Romanian?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’ve
copied this message to the SeaDataNet TTT list so discussion of this issue
doesn’t need to wait until December. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cheers,
Roy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk">platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a>
[<a href="mailto:platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk">mailto:platforms-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:accessions@ices.dk">accessions@ices.dk</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 November 2010 10:32<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:platforms@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk">platforms@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Platforms] ROMANIA - MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear Platform Group,<br>
<br>
The code MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA from ROMANIA has been added according to the
old definitions of "90" and "99" codes for unknown vessels.
The topic of handling "unknown" codes has to be resolved by
discussions at SeaDataNet at their next technical meeting.<br>
<br>
<b>Original Requester : Gabriel Ion (<a href="mailto:gion@geoecomar.ro">gion@geoecomar.ro</a>)</b><br>
<br>
Code : 7390<br>
Name : MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA<br>
Flag : ROMANIA - RO (ISO Country Code)<br>
Platform Class : Vessel of opportunity<br>
<br>
<b>General Comments:</b><br>
We named UVOO_1 for any Unknown Vessel Of Opportunity used by GeoEcoMar prior
to year 2002 <br>
(added by: Gabriel Ion - 20/10/2010 00:00:00)<br>
<br>
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