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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think I’m with you and Olivier here. I can also see
issues with METAFOR model annotation documents being populated with sensors and
water samples collected by software (on the basis that if a mistake is
physically possible, somebody will make it).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> A related question to anybody with knowledge/interest in SKOS
is. If the software catalogue and device catalogue are considered SKOS concept
schemes, could those schemes be considered members of a SKOS collection?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers, Roy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Graybeal
[mailto:jbgraybeal@mindspring.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 December 2010 21:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Lauret Olivier<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lowry, Roy K.; seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Seavox] L221 boundaries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Concur. The characteristics of interest for the terms
are likely to be different as well -- maybe 'author' is similar to
'manufacturer', but the model number equivalent will often be quite a different
kind of thing. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>john<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 6, 2010, at 06:54, Lauret Olivier wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Hello Roy,</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I would personally vote for keep L221 like it is, and add one or
several new SKOS file(s) to include such data production vocabularies.</span><span
lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I guess in short-term it’s easier to put all extensions
into L221, but I’m afraid in long-term you could regret it..</span><span
lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Cheers,</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Olivier.</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
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class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:seavox-bounces@biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>De la part de</b><span
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<b>Envoyé :</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>lundi 6
décembre 2010 14:27<br>
<b>À :</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
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<b>Objet :</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Seavox] L221
boundaries</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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All,</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The
L221 list is currently being built as ‘Terms for distinct sampling or
measuring devices that may be identified in the real world in terms of
manufacturer and model number.’ A question has been raised within BODC as
to whether this should be extended to include software involved in data
production. If so, should this be restricted to software that generates
data like numerical models or should it include processing software used to
work up data such as SeaSoft?</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cheers,
Roy.</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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