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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hello Sylvain,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Although I didn’t respond on the list I felt that Jenny’s
suggestion was heading down the road of model description for evaluation/usage
rather than setting up discovery keywords for the discovery of model datasets.
Your contribution is taking us further down that road. What I currently need
are keywords to populate an ISO19115 MD_KEYWORD class that maps to the
instrument facet in a couple of existing discovery interfaces (SeaDataNet CDI
and NETMAR). I find John’s suggestions much closer to my current
requirement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Although not delivering what I need at the moment, I like your
idea of a thematic (some might call it faceted) classification in the context
of model usage metadata. I don’t know if you are familiar with the EU
METAFOR project, which designed a schema and produced tools for model usage
metadata. It would be interesting to look at how your proposed classification
facets maps onto the METAFOR scheme. I’ll try and find a spare moment to
look into this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers, Roy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> de Margerie, Sylvain
[mailto:Sylvain.deMargerie@dfo-mpo.gc.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 June 2012 12:07<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew, Jennifer A.M.; Lowry, Roy K.; ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk;
sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org; seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rob Louws<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Seavox] Categorisation of models as data production tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The list provided by Jenny are non-exclusive terms, that is in
my experience and also accounting for future evolution multiple of these
descriptors could be used. This would be the most flexible way of
using such syntax. I do note that tighter definitions are likely needed
on all items. It would likely be useful to think of model
classification along themes, for example:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Geometry</span></b><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>:
regular grids (discrete cells with same geometry), conformal grids (retains
orthogonality of axis in each cells), irregular triangular grids (TIN), basis
functions (spectral),… different geometries might apply to
different dimensions (e.g. horizontally regular grids with basis function for
the vertical,…)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Solution Approach</span></b><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>: FE, FD, stochastic, FE with stochastic nudging, particle,
particle in cell,…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Boundary/initial condition</span></b><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>: Forecast (initial and boundary conditions only),
hindcasts (assimilates data, there are many ways of doing this), ensemble
averaged (many mode runs each with different perturbations are averaged),…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dependent variables</span></b><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>: Z and T (i.e. a stratification model); X, Z and T (e.g a
cross-section); X, Y and T (e.g. a baroclinic tide or storm surge model);<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Independent variables</span></b><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>: Sal, Temp, Ro, DO, SSC,….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Therefore I would propose that a nomenclature system rather than
just a list of key words. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"French Script MT";color:#1F497D'>Sylvain
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"French Script MT";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="mailto:Sylvain.deMargerie@dfo-mpo.gc.ca"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sylvain.deMargerie@dfo-mpo.gc.ca</span></a></span><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk
[mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew,
Jennifer A.M.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> June 12, 2012 4:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lowry, Roy K.; ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk;
sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org; seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rob Louws<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Seavox] Categorisation of models as data production tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Roy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>as an alternative approach:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>linear<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>non-linear (including chaotic)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>stochastic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>deterministic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>mesh free<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>adaptive grid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jenny<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a>
<a href="mailto:[mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk]">[mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lowry, Roy K.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 June 2012 09:12<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a>;
<a href="mailto:sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org">sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org</a>; <a
href="mailto:seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rob Louws<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Seavox] Categorisation of models as data production tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear
All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
am planning to extend the SeaDataNet L05 vocabulary (that will at some stage
pass to SeaVoX governance) to provide the ability to discover numerical model
output through the ‘instrument’ search facet. There is
increasing pressure to do this from a number of sources, including the NETMAR
semantic resource.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What
I need for this is a set of between 5 and 10 model classification terms
designed to tag numerical model output datasets (several tags may be applied to
a single dataset) to facilitate their discovery as instruments. If
anybody knows where such a list could be found or would like to propose
candidate terms (either individually or a complete set) it would be much
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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