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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Roy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry for my late reaction but here's a spreadsheet with the metadata I try to gather from the modelling researchers for the Sea- And Coastal research Programme here in the Netherlands.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Though surely incomplete because of it's infancy state and CDI/EDMO offspring origin it perhaps might help you with your Keyword search.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If I can mean anything else on this area please let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Lowry, Roy K. [mailto:rkl@bodc.ac.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> dinsdag 12 juni 2012 13:25<br><b>To:</b> de Margerie, Sylvain; ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk; sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org; seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk<br><b>Cc:</b> Rob Louws<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Seavox] Categorisation of models as data production tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello Sylvain,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Although I didn’t respond on the list I felt that Jenny’s suggestion was heading down the road of model description for evaluation/usage rather than setting up discovery keywords for the discovery of model datasets. Your contribution is taking us further down that road. What I currently need are keywords to populate an ISO19115 MD_KEYWORD class that maps to the instrument facet in a couple of existing discovery interfaces (SeaDataNet CDI and NETMAR). I find John’s suggestions much closer to my current requirement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Although not delivering what I need at the moment, I like your idea of a thematic (some might call it faceted) classification in the context of model usage metadata. I don’t know if you are familiar with the EU METAFOR project, which designed a schema and produced tools for model usage metadata. It would be interesting to look at how your proposed classification facets maps onto the METAFOR scheme. I’ll try and find a spare moment to look into this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers, Roy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> de Margerie, Sylvain <a href="mailto:[mailto:Sylvain.deMargerie@dfo-mpo.gc.ca]">[mailto:Sylvain.deMargerie@dfo-mpo.gc.ca]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> 12 June 2012 12:07<br><b>To:</b> Andrew, Jennifer A.M.; Lowry, Roy K.; <a href="mailto:ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a>; <a href="mailto:sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org">sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org</a>; <a href="mailto:seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Rob Louws<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Seavox] Categorisation of models as data production tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The list provided by Jenny are non-exclusive terms, that is in my experience and also accounting for future evolution multiple of these descriptors could be used. This would be the most flexible way of using such syntax. I do note that tighter definitions are likely needed on all items. It would likely be useful to think of model classification along themes, for example:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Geometry</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: regular grids (discrete cells with same geometry), conformal grids (retains orthogonality of axis in each cells), irregular triangular grids (TIN), basis functions (spectral),… different geometries might apply to different dimensions (e.g. horizontally regular grids with basis function for the vertical,…)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Solution Approach</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: FE, FD, stochastic, FE with stochastic nudging, particle, particle in cell,…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Boundary/initial condition</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: Forecast (initial and boundary conditions only), hindcasts (assimilates data, there are many ways of doing this), ensemble averaged (many mode runs each with different perturbations are averaged),…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dependent variables</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: Z and T (i.e. a stratification model); X, Z and T (e.g a cross-section); X, Y and T (e.g. a baroclinic tide or storm surge model);<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Independent variables</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: Sal, Temp, Ro, DO, SSC,….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Therefore I would propose that a nomenclature system rather than just a list of key words. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"French Script MT";color:#1F497D'>Sylvain de Margerie</span></i></b><span lang=EN-US 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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <br></span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#1F497D'>?</span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 200 Kent Street 12W083 Ottawa, ON CANADA, K1A 0E6 </span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#1F497D'>¿</span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:Sylvain.deMargerie@dfo-mpo.gc.ca"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sylvain.deMargerie@dfo-mpo.gc.ca</span></a></span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk]">[mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew, Jennifer A.M.<br><b>Sent:</b> June 12, 2012 4:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> Lowry, Roy K.; <a href="mailto:ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a>; <a href="mailto:sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org">sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org</a>; <a href="mailto:seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Rob Louws<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Seavox] Categorisation of models as data production tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Roy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>as an alternative approach:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>linear<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>non-linear (including chaotic)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>stochastic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>deterministic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>mesh free<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>adaptive grid<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jenny<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk]">[mailto:seavox-bounces@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lowry, Roy K.<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 June 2012 09:12<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">ontgov@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a>; <a href="mailto:sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org">sdn2-tech@seadatanet.org</a>; <a href="mailto:seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk">seavox@mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Rob Louws<br><b>Subject:</b> [Seavox] Categorisation of models as data production tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am planning to extend the SeaDataNet L05 vocabulary (that will at some stage pass to SeaVoX governance) to provide the ability to discover numerical model output through the ‘instrument’ search facet. There is increasing pressure to do this from a number of sources, including the NETMAR semantic resource.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What I need for this is a set of between 5 and 10 model classification terms designed to tag numerical model output datasets (several tags may be applied to a single dataset) to facilitate their discovery as instruments. If anybody knows where such a list could be found or would like to propose candidate terms (either individually or a complete set) it would be much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cheers, Roy. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please note I now work part-time and may not respond to e-mail from Friday to Monday.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><br>-- <br>This message (and any attachments) is for the recipient only. 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