[Medin_standards] FW: Web uploads
Steven Gontarek
Steven.Gontarek at sams.ac.uk
Mon Apr 19 13:00:59 BST 2010
Hi Mark & Becky,
I think this approach looks very sensible, however I'm not sure that
the way the document is set out is the way to go: there are 5 separate
downloads referenced in the offshore litter guidelines for the other
common tables - that's a lot of messing about for a user ! Could we be
clever about this and populate the print or web documents, on demand,
with the common tables (e.g. Project, Survey) : e.g. as they are
downloaded from the site ? Either that or find a simple way to rebuild
each guideline (without copying and pasting 50 times....), should ever
anything change in any of the common tables ? This might be possible to
do with PDFs using ghostscript and\or distiller: if the common tables
were stored as separate PDFs and each guideline as a PDF with the
dataset specific information, it could be easy scripted (for each
guideline) to just merge the relevent pdfs to generate the full
guideline should anything change. Hope that make sense !
Regarding the web mockup, one thing that might not be immediately clear
is the allowable relationships between the sample techniques\events and
the datasets. The loose structure of the webpage indicates it might be
possible to combine two disparate tables (e.g. Trawl & Dredge & Photos).
Of course that is assuming nobody actually goes and reads the actual
Data guideline, which I'm sure a lot will, but I feel something more
graphical\interactive might help.
Steve
>>> "Charlesworth, Mark E" <mecha at bodc.ac.uk> 14 April 2010 17:46 >>>
All,
At the last meeting there was a clear steer to provide more a modular
approach to the Data Guidelines to stop the repetition of content
between different ones. Myself and Becky have discussed this approach
and come up with a proposed solution.
Basically the approach is to provide common tables as stand alone web
documents and then give the web address in the guidelines at the
appropriate point. If tables need updating this means a lot less work. I
have done an example using the existing offshore litter guideline which
is attached and the tables it refers to in that document are also
attached.
Further details are below and a very rough mock up of how we can
describe this in a webpage also attached.
For those who had strong feelings about this can you please provide
some comments back to myself and Becky by mid next week? We can then
make the necessary amendments and put the new structure and some more
guidelines that we have waiting to publish on the website in the next 2
weeks.
Best Wishes
Mark
From:Charlesworth, Mark E
Sent: 17 March 2010 13:10
To: Becky Seeley
Subject: RE: Web uploads
Hi Becky,
Basically as we discussed I have seperated out the project, survey and
fixed station tables which will be generic to all (where applicable in
the case of project and fixed station) into their own documents -
attached.
The trawl and tow information is also seperated out and this would in
my mind fall in the category of 'Sample Event' which would also include
grab and core, water sample, oceanographic profile etc - it is slightly
different to the data guideline you wrote but we can amend it.
One thing I have struggled with is whether to seperate out the Data
Production Tools (sample and processing methods,) from the sample data
or leave together. I have edited the litter guideline to give an example
of what I expect a MEDIN Guideline could look like under this new
framework and have pulled it out the Data Production Tools bit seperate
but it may need more thought.
Yesterday I started doing a mock up of what the web page introducing it
could look like but I like your matrix more!
Are you around tomorrow so we can go through all this on phone and
plan?
Cheers
Mark
From:Becky Seeley [bese at MBA.ac.uk]
Sent: 17 March 2010 10:36
To: Charlesworth, Mark E
Subject: RE: Web uploads
Hi Mark,
I’ve been trying to consolidate the standards stuff as per our phone
conversation last week. I attach a matrix I made showing the sections
seen in each standard which I hope helps show the commonalities between
them. The first two levels are standard, level three is standard but has
specific requirements on what is included in the methodology. I’m gonna
have a quick look at levels 4-6 to see how much is common.
From:Charlesworth, Mark E [mailto:mecha at bodc.ac.uk]
Sent: 16 March 2010 11:44
To: Allen, Terence J
Cc: Becky Seeley
Subject: Web uploads
Hi Terry
Can you upload these Data Guidelines to this page:
http://www.oceannet.org/marine_data_standards/medin_data_guide.html
Use the titles:
Recording offshore litter data
Oceanographic vertical profile data
Also, In the last paragraph change the sentence ‘MEDIN are in the
process of deriving guidelines for physical oceanographic measurements,
litter and seabed mapping and geophysics.’ To ‘MEDIN are in the process
of deriving guidelines for other physical oceanographic measurements,
biology and seabed mapping and geophysics.’
Cheers
Mark
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