[OntGov] help for ontology for Atlas of the lagoon

Fri Apr 16 10:14:44 BST 2010

Thank you, Olivier.
J.

On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:40 AM, olivier lauret wrote:

Hello John, hello Alessandro and all,

You can find here some existing implementations of SKOS vocabularies:

*BODC vocabulary server is managed by Roy and is already serving many SKOS resources: http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/clients/whatLists

*Marine Metadata Interoperability Ontology repository: http://mmisw.org/orr/#b which is more based on OWL formalism

*GEMET thesaurus: http://www.eionet.europa.eu/gemet/rdf 

Concerning Geonetwork, I am not myself an user but I am pretty sure (95%) that you can link SKOS vocabulary to ISO metadata within Geonetwork. I think it's done for example for GEMET thesaurus, then I guess it's possible for any kind of SKOS file. And about linking OWL to Geonetwork I saw last Monday in the Geonetwork sandbox that developers were also working on its implementation.

Best wishes

Olivier.

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Hi Roy.

Do you have any examples of SKOS-compliant vocab and thesaurus?  I've looked at the web links but they look heavy on ambition and lean on content.  Is this something that is actually implemented or developing?

J.

On Apr 15, 2010, at 6:31 AM, Lowry, Roy K wrote:

Dear Alessandro,

Researching multi-lingual vocabulary management is an important part of our work in NETMAR.  I suggest that you start with English and that we then use the result as a test case in our work.

Cheers, Roy.

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From: Alessandro Mulazzani [mailto:alessandro.mulazzani at gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 April 2010 10:28
To: Lowry, Roy K
Cc: ican_tech at lists.oregonstate.edu; n.dwyer at ucc.ie; Carlos Rueda; ontgov at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk
Subject: Re: help for ontology for Atlas of the lagoon

Dear Roy,
thank you very much for your answer. Your advice is really greatly appreciated!
I will follow the steps you suggest me. It will just take some time to
do the job...

I suppose you expect an excel file with terms in English, but I will
need to have them also in Italian.
Which is the best way to create multi-language vocabulary?
Once ready and agreed, I'll have no problem of course to allow you to
host the lagoon vocabulary at NETMAR.

I'll send you something as soon as ready.

Yours sincerely
Alessandro

2010/4/15 Lowry, Roy K <rkl at bodc.ac.uk>
> 
> Hi Alessandro,
> 
> 
> 
> My advice would be to stay away from Protégé for what you want to do, which is to build a fairly straightforward vocabulary of the terms that you use to describe the features in your Atlas.  Initially, I would start to assemble the knowledge using more familiar tools - my personal preference is Excel.  What you need to build is spreadsheet containing at least two columns, one for terms (such as 'lagoon') and one for term definitions (such as 'a body of water cut off from a larger body by a reef of sand or coral').  I also tend to include a column of abbreviations as well, but this isn't supported by all semantic frameworks.
> 
> 
> 
> If you like, once you have got that far you could submit the result to me to check out that the content you have proposed will work as a vocabulary, for example do all the terms refer to the same kind of entity, and offer suggestions if I think it will not.  This work would come under the remit of NETMAR and so would be attended to promptly. I could also call on the expertise available in the NETMAR ontology governance group if required.
> 
> 
> 
> When you have gathered your knowledge together, you have two alternative systems through which to expose it as a part of the ICAN ontology.  You can either hand it over to me to set it up as a vocabulary in the NERC Vocabulary server, or you can upload the result into the MMI Ontology Registry and Repository using the toolkit MMI have developed.  Carlos Rueda of MMI gave an excellent Webinar presentation on this yesterday to the ICAN Tech Team and I'm  sure he could make the slides available to you.
> 
> 
> 
> My plans for NETMAR involve building a seamless bridge between these two semantic resources, so it doesn't really matter which Atlas vocabulary is in which repository.  However, as there are already ICAN resources, including the master umbrella ontology, in MMI and none in the NERC Vocabulary Server, it would help my NETMAR development work if you were to allow me to host your vocabulary.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Roy.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Alessandro Mulazzani [mailto:alessandro.mulazzani at gmail.com]
> Sent: 07 April 2010 18:31
> To: Lowry, Roy K; bermudez at sura.org; y.lassoued at ucc.ie
> Cc: n.dwyer at ucc.ie
> Subject: help for ontology for Atlas of the lagoon
> 
> 
> 
> Dear ICANers! Hope you are all fine!
> 
> I am writing to you three believing you are the right persons to ask some help about ontologies, but please, feel free to forward this email to any ICANer who can help with the issues below.
> 
> As agreed during ICAN 4, I am finally going to start to create an ontology for the Atlas of the lagoon of Venice in order to join the ICAN prototype, and I have some questions:
> 
> I am going to use Protege OWL. Do you thing is that appropriate?
> 
> Are there any up-to-date ontologies already created for coastal atlases by ICAN or others that I can use as examples, or that should be used as a reference?
> 
> Are there any ontologies for environmental atlases in general which are becomenig a sort of standard?
> 
> How the ontology can be linked with the metadata catalogue (geonetwork in our case?)
> 
> Thank you very much in advance for your help!
> 
> Best wishes!
> Alessandro
> 
> www.silvenezia.it

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