From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Mon Mar 2 07:45:30 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:45:30 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] Turkey Bilim-2 Message-ID: Hi Marilynn, My understanding of the definition of a ship code is a hull/name/callsign/governance(including flag) combination. On that basis 'Bilim-2' should be assigned a new code. Otherwise the fact that she was called 'Bilim' completely disappears from the metadata. Cheers, Roy. >>> Marilynn S?rensen 2/25/2009 3:49 pm >>> Dear Platform group and Volodymyr, We have been notified that the Turkish vessel Bilim had a name change to Bilim-2. The call sign has not been changed but note that the ICES/NODC/C174 lists have an incorrect call sign which should be corrected. The code remains 89BL as there is no flag or hull change. Bilim-2 RV TCBU3 research vessel 1983-01-01 7729667 Built 1983. Research vessel owned by Institute of Marine Sciences, Middle East Technical University. Previous name Bilim from 01 January 1983 to 2005. Length 40m. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=214361 Comment: Call sign corrected from TAAB to TCBU3. Lloyds says the name was Bilim from 01 January 1983 to before 20 March 2006, whereas the Institute says 2005. Used 2005. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 From marilynn at ices.dk Mon Mar 2 12:50:15 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:50:15 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK Commodore Goodwill Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFB4@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Commodore Goodwill. Suggested code: 74VP Commodore Goodwill ship of opportunity on fixed route 8414661 1989-11-10 1995-06-06 General cargo ship used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1985 as Akak Cedar (Cyprus), renamed Commodore Goodwill 10 Nov 1989 and reregistered in the UK. Re-registered in Antigua and Barbuda and renamed HMS Goodwill (6 Jun 1995) then HMS Navigator (15 Mar 2004). Subsequently re-registered in Norway (int Reg). Active as at Oct 2007, length 96m Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=175655 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re-registered in the UK between 8 Dec 1983 to 30 Oct 1991 and then subsequently re-registered (Isle of Man then Bermuda). Renamed Singapore Senator 30 Jul 1987 and subsequently renamed 4 times. As at Oct 2007 she is the Bermuda registered vessel Victory. Length 177.02m Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=117744 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090302/237b9315/attachment.html From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 20:14:32 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:14:32 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Golden West In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFAA@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFAA@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC3E28.6070005@noaa.gov> All, Confirmed by NOAA on 3 March 2009. Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Golden West. > > Suggested code: 74VN > > > > Golden West MKFD4 fishing vessel MFV 8717506 1988 FR363 Fishing vessel chartered by FRS. Built in 1988, active as at Oct 2007, callsign MKFD4, length 18m > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=331692 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 20:17:56 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:17:56 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Gardline Locater In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA9@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA9@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC3EF4.1020002@noaa.gov> Confirmed by NOAA on 3 March 2009. Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Gardline Locater. > > Suggested code: 74VM > > > > Gardline Locater HP7444 research vessel 7048063 1978-08-01 1993-10-06 Seismographic research vessel built 1946 as the UK vessel HMS Blackburn. Renamed Marpounds (1 Jan 1970) then Isis Locator (1 Jan 1974) and then Gardline Locator on 1 Aug 1978. Re-registered in Panama 6 Oct 1993 and subsequently re-registered (Belize then Panama) before being broken in Singapore on 31 Aug 1997. Length 52m > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=104405 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 20:21:16 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:21:16 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Booker Challenge In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA8@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA8@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC3FBC.5050908@noaa.gov> Confirmed by NOAA on 3 March 2009. Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Booker Challenge. > > Suggested code: 74VJ > > > > Booker Challenge ship of opportunity on fixed route 1979-09-15 1993-03-05 1983-05-24 7221354 General cargo ship built in 1972 and used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built as the vessel Sol Michel (Norway), renamed Lloyd > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=34665 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 20:55:03 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:55:03 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Geestbay In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA7@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA7@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC47A7.40806@noaa.gov> Confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. Please update notes to include the following statement: NODC World Ocean Database platform code for this vessel is 9442. Thanks, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Geestbay. > > Suggested code: 74KW > > > > Geestbay GBVV ship of opportunity on fixed route 1981-07-16 1993-03-05 8003761 UK General cargo ship built in 1981 and used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Re-registered in Bahamas 5 Mar 1993 and re-named Magellan Reefer on 28 Oct 1994 (Panama). Subsequently re-named Nafsica 19 Mar 2003 and then Estia I on 21 Sep 206. Active as at Oct 2007. Length 159m. > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=146147 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 21:07:40 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:07:40 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Commodore Enterprise In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA4@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA4@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC4A9C.5080801@noaa.gov> Confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Commodore Enterprise. > > Suggested code: 74VH > > > > Commodore Enterprise ship of opportunity on fixed route 1977 1987-09-08 7631042 UK General cargo ship built in 1977 and used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Sold an re-registered in Norway as Scott Survivor 8 Sep 1987. Subsequently re-registered and renamed numerous times. As at Oct 2007 she still is active as the vessel Wilson Fjord registered in Barbados. Length 95m > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=106431 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 21:11:17 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:11:17 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Boy John In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA2@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA2@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC4B75.6010902@noaa.gov> Confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Boy John. > > Suggested code: 74VF > > > > Boy John MWRD6 fishing vessel MFV 1996 8953021 fishing vessel chartered by FRS. Built in 1996, active as at Oct 2007, length 20 > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=337635 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 21:14:51 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:14:51 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Amadeus In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA1@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFA1@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC4C4B.5050903@noaa.gov> All, Confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Amadeus. > > Suggested code: 74MD > > > > Amadeus MMFQ9 fishing vessel MFV 2000-10-30 8808939 BF838 UK fishing vessel chartered by FRS Aberdeen. Built in 1990 as Spes Melinor V. Renamed Amadeus (BF 838) on 30 Oct 2000. Callsign MMFQ9. Live as at Oct 2007. Length 26m. > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=237535 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 21:22:18 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:22:18 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Booker Viking In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF9F@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF9F@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC4E0A.3000207@noaa.gov> All, Confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Booker Viking. > > Suggested code: 74VE > > > > Booker Viking ship of opportunity on fixed route 1967 1980-10-29 6713922 Cargo vessel built 1967 as UK vessel Booker Viking, re-registered in Qatar (29 Oct 1980) and renamed as Al Amirah (29 Oct 1980). Vessel now dead. Used by SAHFOS for CPR project > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=7100 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 21:25:19 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:25:19 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Booker Vanguard In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF9E@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF9E@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC4EBF.30503@noaa.gov> All, Confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Booker Vanguard. > > Suggested code: 74VD > > > > Booker Vanguard ship of opportunity on fixed route 1963 1979-10-01 5419098 Cargo vessel built in 1963 as UK vessel Booker Vanguard, re-registred in Greece (1 Oct 1979) and renamed Katy (25 Nov 1979) and then Franky (13 Feb 1981). Vessel now dead. Used by SAHFOS for CPR project > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=7076 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Mon Mar 2 21:28:38 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:28:38 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Alison Kay In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF9D@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF9D@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AC4F86.4010105@noaa.gov> All, Confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Alison Kay. . > > Suggested code: 74KI (letter I) > > > > Alison Kay ZQYJ7 fishing vessel MFV 2001 9225938 LK57 Fishing vessel chartered by FRS. Built in 2001, length 23m, live as at Oct 2007 > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=313082 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 10:41:12 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:41:12 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK Seatrain Saratoga Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBC@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Seatrain Saratoga. Suggested code: 74VT Seatrain Saratoga ship of opportunity on fixed route 7816824 1979-09-22 1980-10-23 Container carrier used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1979 as the UK vessel Seatrain Saratoga. Renamed TFL Jefferson (23 Oct 1980). Re-registered in Singapore 14 Feb 1981. Subsequently re-registered and renamed on numerous occasions. Active as at Oct 2007 as the Bermuda registered vessel Glory Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=130605 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/9120f470/attachment-0001.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 11:11:58 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:11:58 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK Sugar Producer Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBE@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Sugar Producer. Suggested code: 74VU Sugar Producer ship of opportunity 6810938 1968 1978-12-15 Bulker vessel used as ship of opportunity. Built in 1968, registered by Lloyds as UK vessel Sugar Producer 15 Sep 1975. Re-registered in Geece and renamed Capa Avanti 17 Oct 1979. Subsequently re-registered and renamed on numerous occasions. Broken in Taiwan on 6 Nov 1987 as the vessel Delta Port Said (Egypt) Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=57376 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/dbb09e5e/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 11:53:54 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:53:54 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK Destro Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC0@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Destro. Suggested code: 74VX Destro ship of opportunity on fixed route 7024110 1975-11-21 1978-12-03 Ro-ro vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1970 as the UK vessel Destro. Renamed Jolly Azzurro 11 Dec 1978. Re-registered in Italy 28 Feb 1982 as Jolly Celeste. Subsequently re-registered and renamed, broken in India 23 Mar 2000 as the Bulgarian registered vessel Presalav. Length 130m Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=14425 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/aadfcde0/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 12:10:01 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:10:01 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK City of Plymouth Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC1@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel City of Plymouth. Suggested code: 74VY City of Plymouth ship of opportunity on fixed route 7702542 1978-11-18 1993-05-06 Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1978 as the UK registered City of Plymouth. Renamed Cervantes 7 May 1993 and re-registered in the Isle of Man. She was subsequently renamed City of Lisbon (9 May 1996) then Pacheco (8 Apr 1998) before re-registering in Tuvalu (on 2 Oct 2007) as Pacheco 1. Active as at Oct 2007, length 104m Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=113061 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/ce638c20/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 12:38:12 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:38:12 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK City of Lisbon Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC2@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel City of Lisbon. Suggested code: 74VZ City of Lisbon ship of opportunity on fixed route 7702542 1996-05-09 1998-04-07 Cervantes, City of Plymouth Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1978 as the UK registered City of Plymouth. Renamed Cervantes 7 May 1993 and re-registered in the Isle of Man. She was subsequently renamed City of Lisbon (9 May 1996) then Pacheco (8 Apr 1998) before re-registering in Tuvalu (on 2 Oct 2007) as Pacheco 1. Active as at Oct 2007, length 104m Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=113061 Comment: Same vessel as City of Plymouth. This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/8500bbaa/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 14:54:15 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:54:15 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Germany Gracechurch Comet Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC5@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the German vessel Gracechurch Comet. Suggested code: 06KQ Gracechurch Comet Germany DIKD ship of opportunity on fixed route 8919831 1991-10-07 1996-01-16< /decommissioned> Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1991 as the German vessel Komet III. Renamed Gracechurch Comet 7 Oct 1991 before reconverting to Komet III on 17 Jan 1996. Renamed Portugal Bridge 29 Feb 1996 before again reverting to Komet III on 30 Jan 1997. Re-registered in the UK 19 Mar 2003. Active as at Oct 2007, length 116m. As of 2008-07-03 the Komet III was registered under Antigua & Barbuda flag. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=230255 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/8c387450/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 15:11:09 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:11:09 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Germany Christiane Bolten Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC6@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the German vessel Christiane Bolten. Suggested code: 06CJ Christiane Bolten Germany ship of opportunity on fixed route 6826092 1975-11-01 1977-04-05 German general cargo vessel used as ship of opportunity collecting plancton data for SAHFOS (CPR). Built in 1969, renamed Caribe 3 May 1977 and re-registered in Panama. Broken in Jul 1984 as the vessel Los Caribes (registered in Trinidad and Tobago). Length 121m. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=12226 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/94bf2e5f/attachment-0001.html From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 16:15:21 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:15:21 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Spain Atlantida In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF8B@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF8B@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD5799.3090502@noaa.gov> All, Code 35AI (letter I) is in use at NODC for Spanish Vessel AILETTE (WOD Code 4049), callsign FUZB, built 1982. I would suggest using 35C5 for Spanish vessel Atlantida. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Spanish vessel Atlantida. > > Suggested code: 35AI (letter I) > Atlantida EGUK ship 8506062 19982003 Length 114m. Built 1988. Atlantida had Spanish flag (Feb.24 1988 - Dec.25 2003), then became MV Trinity Supporter with Belize flag (26 Dec. 2003-Feb. 28 2008), then became IT Interceptor with Barbados flag from Feb. 29 2008. > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=207456 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 16:32:03 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:32:03 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Spain Atlantida In-Reply-To: <49AD5799.3090502@noaa.gov> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF8B@coral.ices.local> <49AD5799.3090502@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC7@coral.ices.local> Hi All, MY MISTAKE! A typographical error... The code should have been 29AI! Some aren't ready to drop the first two digits for country yet! > Suggested code: 29AI (letter I) > Atlantida EGUK > ship 8506062 > 19982003 > Length 114m. Built 1988. Atlantida had Spanish flag (Feb.24 > 1988 - Dec.25 2003), then became MV Trinity Supporter with Belize flag > (26 Dec. 2003-Feb. 28 2008), then became IT Interceptor with Barbados > flag from Feb. 29 2008. > > Lloyds: > http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=207456 ~Marilynn -----Original Message----- From: Donald Collins [mailto:Donald.Collins at noaa.gov] Sent: 03 March 2009 17:15 To: Marilynn S?rensen Cc: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Platforms] Spain Atlantida All, Code 35AI (letter I) is in use at NODC for Spanish Vessel AILETTE (WOD Code 4049), callsign FUZB, built 1982. I would suggest using 35C5 for Spanish vessel Atlantida. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Spanish vessel Atlantida. > > Suggested code: 35AI (letter I) > Atlantida EGUK > ship 8506062 > 19982003 > Length 114m. Built 1988. Atlantida had Spanish flag (Feb.24 > 1988 - Dec.25 2003), then became MV Trinity Supporter with Belize flag > (26 Dec. 2003-Feb. 28 2008), then became IT Interceptor with Barbados > flag from Feb. 29 2008. > > Lloyds: > http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=207456 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens > Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 **************************************************************************** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com **************************************************************************** From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 16:58:15 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:58:15 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Sweden Inger Express Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC8@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Swedish vessel Inger Express. Suggested code: 77EX Inger Express Sweden ship of opportunity on fixed route 74277649 1978-02-15 1981-10-02 Ro-ro vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1979 as Seaspeed Dora (Greece). Re-registered in Sweden 26 Dec 1976, renamed Inger Express 15 Feb 1978 until re-registered in Belgium as Marcel C (13 Nov 1981). Subsequently re-registered and renamed on numerous occasions. As at Oct 2007 she is active as the Humber Way and regstered in Malta. Length 132,7m. 28 January 2008 registered as Gumel with Panama flag. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=72303 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/13814363/attachment.html From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 17:12:54 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:12:54 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] =?iso-8859-1?q?Denmark_JHC_Milj=F8_changed_to_JHC_Mil?= =?iso-8859-1?q?joe?= In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF52@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF52@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD6516.2050706@noaa.gov> All, Code 26JL for Denmark vessel "JHC Miljoe" confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Hi Platform group, > > Not everyone can support the Danish character "?" so I have changed the "JHC Milj?" to "JHC Miljoe". This group may need to discuss time frames for supporting the Latin 1 set (ISO 8859-1). > > Danish vessel JHC Miljoe. > > Suggested code: 26JL > JHC Miljoe R/VDenmarkResearch vessel 7303293 OWDR2 > > Length 29.96m.Tonnage 122BT. Built 1973. MMSI Nr. 219012685. Owned by ?resund B?dservice Lillen?s 30 7000 Fredericia. > > Link: URL http://www.oeresund-baadservice.dk/jhcmiljoe.htm > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=9418971 > Friedrich, please note that according to Lloyds the number you quoted is the MMSI nr. and not the IMO Nr. See the IMO above. > > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 17:13:35 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:13:35 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Netherlands Nieuwland Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC9@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Netherlands vessel Nieuwland. Suggested code: 64NS Nieuwland Netherlands ship of opportunity on fixed route 6803301 1975-12-09 1980-03-22 Cargo vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1968. Re-registered in the UK and renamed Eline (29 Mar 1980) and then re-registered in Venezuela (16 Oct 1983) and subsequently renamed Cantaclaro II then Las Aves. Active as at Oct 2007, length 78m. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=42763 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/ae1f4892/attachment.html From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 17:23:56 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:23:56 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Denmark Maritina In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF47@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF47@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD67AC.7020000@noaa.gov> All, Code 26MP for the Danish vessel Maritina is confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Danish vessel Maritina. > > Suggested code: 26MP > Maritina R/VDenmarkResearch vesselXPB8492 > Length 10.68m.Tonnage 6,8BT. MMSI Nr. 219000512. Owned by DHI 2970 Horsholm > Link: URL http://www.vesseltracker.com/nl/Ships/Maritina-I275737.html MMSI number found here. > Lloyds: none > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 3 18:16:47 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:16:47 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] France Le Colbert Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFCC@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the French vessel Le Colbert. Suggested code: 352I Le Colbert FG4666 fishing vessel DP 707952 Length 11.95 m, width 5.70 m. Used for one French cruise in 2005. Harbour Dieppe (Seine-Maritime - France) This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. I do not think this is the "Colbert" 352J but if you have more information on that vessel (like when was the code added and who requested it etc.) it would be helpful. 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URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090303/2115baed/attachment.html From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 19:43:29 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:43:29 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Greece Ivory In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF79@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF79@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD8861.9010305@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Greek vessel Ivory. > > Suggested code: 36BS > Ivory SVDB ship of opportunity 5031078 2008-01-30 Cruise liner used as VOS - Volunteer Observing Ship for Cyprus data in 2008. Previous names under Greek flag were Aegean Two and Ivory, previous name under Cyprus/Malta/Italy flags was Ausonia. > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=4757 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 19:46:22 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:46:22 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Cyprus Alkion In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF7A@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF7A@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD890E.2030007@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Cyprus vessel Alkion. > > Suggested code: CYAC > Alkion Cyprus self-propelled small boat Owned by Cyprus Fishery Department and used for coastal applications. Active in 2009. > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 19:49:25 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:49:25 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Cyprus Gorgo In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF7B@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF7B@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD89C5.7040800@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Cyprus vessel Gorgo. > > Suggested code: CYAD > Gorgo Cyprus self-propelled small boat Owned by Cyprus Fishery Department and used for coastal applications. Active in 2009. > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 19:54:28 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:54:28 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Norwegian Nybo In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF89@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF89@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD8AF4.3020700@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Norwegian vessel Nybo. > > Suggested code: 58NX > Nybo LJBD fishing vessel 8131453 1998 > Year of build 1998. MMSI 259 511000 > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=294890 > Comment: Note that Lloyds says that a previous name was "Langset 3" from 1983-1999. Assumed in error based on Norway registry link. > Link: http://www.nis-nor.no/S%C3%B8k/hoved.browse.aspx?path=%2fhome%2fs%C3%B8k%2fskipaktuelledata&layout={09922BC8-02D1-4E3F-8ECE-931D820A34EA} > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:00:40 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:00:40 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Seatrain Saratoga In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBC@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBC@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD8C68.9080903@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > > > Dear Platform Group, > > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Seatrain Saratoga. > > Suggested code: 74VT > > > > Seatrain Saratoga ship of opportunity on fixed route 7816824 1979-09-22 1980-10-23 Container carrier used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1979 as the UK vessel Seatrain Saratoga. Renamed TFL Jefferson (23 Oct 1980). Re-registered in Singapore 14 Feb 1981. Subsequently re-registered and renamed on numerous occasions. Active as at Oct 2007 as the Bermuda registered vessel Glory > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=130605 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:03:31 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:03:31 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Sugar Producer In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBE@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBE@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD8D13.2070606@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > > > Dear Platform Group, > > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Sugar Producer. > > Suggested code: 74VU > > > > Sugar Producer ship of opportunity 6810938 1968 1978-12-15 Bulker vessel used as ship of opportunity. Built in 1968, registered by Lloyds as UK vessel Sugar Producer 15 Sep 1975. Re-registered in Geece and renamed Capa Avanti 17 Oct 1979. Subsequently re-registered and renamed on numerous occasions. Broken in Taiwan on 6 Nov 1987 as the vessel Delta Port Said (Egypt) > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=57376 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:08:30 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:08:30 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Challenge II In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBF@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFBF@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD8E3E.2000608@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > > > Dear Platform Group, > > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Challenge II. > > Suggested code: 74VW > > > > Challenge II MVIX5 fishing vessel MFV 9119713 1995 UK fishing vessel chartered by FRS. Built in 1995, active as at Oct 2007, length 27m > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=287701 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:16:00 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:16:00 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Destro In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC0@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC0@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD9000.80006@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > > > Dear Platform Group, > > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Destro. > > Suggested code: 74VX > > > > Destro ship of opportunity on fixed route 7024110 1975-11-21 1978-12-03 Ro-ro vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1970 as the UK vessel Destro. Renamed Jolly Azzurro 11 Dec 1978. Re-registered in Italy 28 Feb 1982 as Jolly Celeste. Subsequently re-registered and renamed, broken in India 23 Mar 2000 as the Bulgarian registered vessel Presalav. Length 130m > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=14425 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:18:40 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:18:40 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK City of Plymouth In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC1@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC1@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD90A0.1010500@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > > > Dear Platform Group, > > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel City of Plymouth. > > Suggested code: 74VY > > > > City of Plymouth ship of opportunity on fixed route 7702542 1978-11-18 1993-05-06 Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1978 as the UK registered City of Plymouth. Renamed Cervantes 7 May 1993 and re-registered in the Isle of Man. She was subsequently renamed City of Lisbon (9 May 1996) then Pacheco (8 Apr 1998) before re-registering in Tuvalu (on 2 Oct 2007) as Pacheco 1. Active as at Oct 2007, length 104m > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=113061 > > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:22:35 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:22:35 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK City of Lisbon In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC2@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC2@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD918B.9030808@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel City of Lisbon. > > Suggested code: 74VZ > > > > City of Lisbon ship of opportunity on fixed route 7702542 1996-05-09 1998-04-07 Cervantes, City of Plymouth Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1978 as the UK registered City of Plymouth. Renamed Cervantes 7 May 1993 and re-registered in the Isle of Man. She was subsequently renamed City of Lisbon (9 May 1996) then Pacheco (8 Apr 1998) before re-registering in Tuvalu (on 2 Oct 2007) as Pacheco 1. Active as at Oct 2007, length 104m > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=113061 > Comment: Same vessel as City of Plymouth. > > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:28:20 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:28:20 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Germany Gracechurch Comet In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC5@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC5@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD92E4.7090704@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the German vessel Gracechurch Comet. > > Suggested code: 06KQ > > > > Gracechurch Comet Germany DIKD ship of opportunity on fixed route 8919831 1991-10-07 1996-01-16< /decommissioned> Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1991 as the German vessel Komet III. Renamed Gracechurch Comet 7 Oct 1991 before reconverting to Komet III on 17 Jan 1996. Renamed Portugal Bridge 29 Feb 1996 before again reverting to Komet III on 30 Jan 1997. Re-registered in the UK 19 Mar 2003. Active as at Oct 2007, length 116m. As of 2008-07-03 the Komet III was registered under Antigua & Barbuda flag. > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=230255 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:34:09 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Germany Christiane Bolten In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC6@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC6@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD9441.7030107@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the German vessel Christiane Bolten. > > Suggested code: 06CJ > > > > Christiane Bolten Germany ship of opportunity on fixed route 6826092 1975-11-01 1977-04-05 German general cargo vessel used as ship of opportunity collecting plancton data for SAHFOS (CPR). Built in 1969, renamed Caribe 3 May 1977 and re-registered in Panama. Broken in Jul 1984 as the vessel Los Caribes (registered in Trinidad and Tobago). Length 121m. > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=12226 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 20:40:04 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:40:04 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Sweden Inger Express In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC8@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC8@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD95A4.4020405@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > > > Dear Platform Group, > > > A request has come in for a code for the Swedish vessel Inger Express. > > Suggested code: 77EX > > > > Inger Express Sweden ship of opportunity on fixed route 74277649 1978-02-15 1981-10-02 Ro-ro vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1979 as Seaspeed Dora (Greece). Re-registered in Sweden 26 Dec 1976, renamed Inger Express 15 Feb 1978 until re-registered in Belgium as Marcel C (13 Nov 1981). Subsequently re-registered and renamed on numerous occasions. As at Oct 2007 she is active as the Humber Way and regstered in Malta. Length 132,7m. 28 January 2008 registered as Gumel with Panama flag. > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=72303 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 21:04:36 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:04:36 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Netherlands Nieuwland In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC9@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFC9@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AD9B64.8040208@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > > A request has come in for a code for the Netherlands vessel Nieuwland. > > Suggested code: 64NS > > > > Nieuwland Netherlands ship of opportunity on fixed route 6803301 1975-12-09 1980-03-22 Cargo vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1968. Re-registered in the UK and renamed Eline (29 Mar 1980) and then re-registered in Venezuela (16 Oct 1983) and subsequently renamed Cantaclaro II then Las Aves. Active as at Oct 2007, length 78m. > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=42763 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 22:14:04 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:14:04 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] France Le Colbert In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFCC@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFCC@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49ADABAC.5050307@noaa.gov> All, NODC concurs that this vessel is different than French vessel 'COLBERT', NODC code 352J: GTSPP identifies 352J as having a callsign of FAUC, which links it to the French naval vessel FNS COLBERT (C611), launched 24 March 1956 (Jane's Fighting Ships 1985-86), decommissioned 1991, converted to museum ship at Bordeaux in 1993, awaiting scrapping since 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cruiser_Colbert_(1956)). This platform request (Le Colbert, 352I) was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > A request has come in for a code for the French vessel Le Colbert. > > Suggested code: 352I > Le Colbert FG4666 fishing vessel DP 707952 Length 11.95 m, width 5.70 m. Used for one French cruise in 2005. Harbour Dieppe (Seine-Maritime - France) > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. I do not think this is the "Colbert" 352J but if you have more information on that vessel (like when was the code added and who requested it etc.) it would be helpful. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Tue Mar 3 22:36:33 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:36:33 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Sweden Sea Terrier In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF45@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF45@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49ADB0F1.6030008@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 3 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Swedish small boat SEA TERRIER . > > Suggested code: 77ST > SEA TERRIERSWEDENSFC-8859 self-propelled small boat 2000 built 1999 Sweden, length 6m, port-of-registry Norrk?ping, owner SMHI, boat used for coastal marine monitoring, no scientific equipment on board > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From marilynn at ices.dk Wed Mar 4 15:05:26 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:05:26 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] =?iso-8859-1?q?France_L=27_ESP=C9RANCE?= Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFD1@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the French vessel L' ESP?RANCE. Suggested code: 35ER L' ESP?RANCE FANC naval vessel 19692000 Jacques Coeur A756 Built 1962. Previous name Jacques Coeur from 1962-1968. Length 64m Links: http://www.netmarine.net/bat/hydro/esperanc/index.htm http://www.amhydro.org/index.php?id=24 Comment: In answer to the question of with or without L'. Picture shows L' on hull. This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Spelling variations "Prof. Georges Petit", "Prof. Georges-Petit", "Georges-Petit", "Georges Petit", "GEORGES-PETIT (PROFESSEUR)". Link: http://paleopolis.rediris.es/Phoronida/EMIG/Souvenirs/Navires/N-O.html Comment: Port-Vendres was sent in as a pennant number from IFREMER. It is on the hull under the name. Also on the hull is FV 597718 or is it PV 597718? Does anyone have a clear picture of this vessel? Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090304/56a47bdc/attachment.html From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Wed Mar 4 22:17:10 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:17:10 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] German Mittelgrund In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BCF2@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BCF2@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AEFDE6.50601@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 4 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > A request has come in for a code for the German vessel Mittelgrund. > > Suggested code: 07MT > Mittelgrund DRXPGermany naval vessel 1989/09/21 Y864 MMSI-number: 211213640 Length: 33.5m beam: 9.2m Institute using ship: Bundeswehr technical center (WTD 71) Eckernf?rde > > Lloyds link http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=361872 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Wed Mar 4 22:25:00 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:25:00 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Another UK Heather Sprig In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF58@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF58@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AEFFBC.1030407@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 4 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > A request for a code for another UK vessel Heather Sprig: > > Suggested code: 74IA - (letter I) > Heather Sprig MFV fishing vessel BCK153 1985 Fishing vessel chartered by FRS Aberdeen Marine Laboratory during 1985 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Wed Mar 4 22:28:32 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:28:32 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Bon Accord In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF65@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF65@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AF0090.2030609@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 4 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Bon Accord. > > Suggested code: 74IE (letter I) > Bon Accord MV research vessel Commercial geophysical survey ship chartered by IOS Taunton. Cruise reports from May and June 1979 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Wed Mar 4 22:36:35 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:36:35 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Angelle Marie In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF5A@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF5A@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AF0273.2080607@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 4 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Angelle Marie. > > Suggested code: 74ID - letter I > Angelle Marie FV fishing vessel Fishing vessel chartered regularly by Lowestoft Fisheries Laboratory > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Wed Mar 4 22:43:28 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:43:28 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] UK Enterprise In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF59@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BF59@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AF0410.5040506@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 4 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Enterprise. > > Suggested code: 74IC - letter I > Enterprise >MFV MYOW3 fishing vessel 9207211 FR365 Fishing vessel chartered on several occasions by FRS Aberdeen Marine Laboratory, built 1999, MSSI 235 000630, port of registry Fraserburgh, length 56 m > > Links: > http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62553 > http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=235000630 > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=287872 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Wed Mar 4 22:47:58 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:47:58 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] German Kronsort In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BCF6@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BCF6@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AF051E.8070505@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 4 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > A request has come in for a code for the German vessel Kronsort. > > Suggested code: 07KS > Kronsort DRMEGermany naval vessel 1987/12/2 Y861 MMSI-number: 211212230 Length: 56.5m beam: 10.8m Institute using ship: Bundeswehr technical center (WTD 71) Eckernf?rde > > Lloyds link http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=361847 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Wed Mar 4 22:51:07 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:51:07 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] German Stollergrund In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BCF4@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BCF4@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49AF05DB.5080209@noaa.gov> All, This platform request was confirmed by NOAA on 4 Mar 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > A request has come in for a code for the German vessel Stollergrund. > > Suggested code: 07ST > Stollergrund DRXO Germany naval vessel 1989/05/31 Y863 MMSI-number: 211213630 Length: 33.5m beam: 9.2m Institute using ship: Bundeswehr technical center (WTD 71) Eckernf?rde > > Lloyds link http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=362067 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Thu Mar 5 08:22:53 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:22:53 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] France Georges Petit Message-ID: Hi Marilynn, Our objective for the name should be what is painted on the hull. Although the photo at the URL is not the best quality (I have also tried capturing the image and magnifying it in Photoshop), some things are beyond doubt. First, there is no hyphen. Secondly, there is something starting with 'P' before the 'GEORGES', which is too short to be 'PROFESSEUR' that I think can only be 'PR' or 'PROF'. Port Vendres is clearly the port of registration and not a pennant number - the pennant number is on the front. I now believe you are right about 'PV 597718' as I have discovered that the standard is to base these on the port of registration (PV = Port Vendres) Hopefully, our French colleagues can help with a better photograph once their current rash of SeaDataNet deadlines have been met. Cheers, Roy. >>> Marilynn S?rensen 3/4/2009 5:28 pm >>> Dear Platform Group, Additional information has come in for the French vessel Georges Petit with existing code 35GP. ICES questions what the true name of this vessel is and will leave the name "as is" until a clear picture of the vessel is submitted with the name. The link below says "Prof. GEORGES PETIT" but the name GEORGES-PETIT (PROFESSEUR) was sent is as the correction. FUUM research vessel FV 597718? 1982 2001 Port-Vendres. Length 20.4 m. Spelling variations "Prof. Georges Petit", "Prof. Georges-Petit", "Georges-Petit", "Georges Petit", "GEORGES-PETIT (PROFESSEUR)". Link: http://paleopolis.rediris.es/Phoronida/EMIG/Souvenirs/Navires/N-O.html Comment: Port-Vendres was sent in as a pennant number from IFREMER. It is on the hull under the name. Also on the hull is FV 597718 or is it PV 597718? Does anyone have a clear picture of this vessel? Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 From Michele.Fichaut at ifremer.fr Thu Mar 5 09:02:28 2009 From: Michele.Fichaut at ifremer.fr (Michele FICHAUT) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:02:28 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] France Georges Petit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49AF9524.7080403@ifremer.fr> Hi all, On the hull I think it is "PR" that is painted. But in all the paper swe have here from INSU which is the owner of the ship, the official of the ship is "Professeur Georges Petit" and the pennant number is PV597718. We are currently continuing to search information on the ships and completing the file we previously sent you. Regards mich?le Roy Lowry a ?crit : > Hi Marilynn, > > Our objective for the name should be what is painted on the hull. > Although the photo at the URL is not the best quality (I have also tried > capturing the image and magnifying it in Photoshop), some things are > beyond doubt. First, there is no hyphen. Secondly, there is something > starting with 'P' before the 'GEORGES', which is too short to be > 'PROFESSEUR' that I think can only be 'PR' or 'PROF'. Port Vendres is > clearly the port of registration and not a pennant number - the pennant > number is on the front. I now believe you are right about 'PV 597718' > as I have discovered that the standard is to base these on the port of > registration (PV = Port Vendres) > > Hopefully, our French colleagues can help with a better photograph once > their current rash of SeaDataNet deadlines have been met. > > Cheers, Roy. > > > > >>>> Marilynn S?rensen 3/4/2009 5:28 pm >>> >>>> > Dear Platform Group, > > Additional information has come in for the French vessel Georges Petit > with existing code 35GP. ICES questions what the true name of this > vessel is and will leave the name "as is" until a clear picture of the > vessel is submitted with the name. The link below says "Prof. GEORGES > PETIT" but the name GEORGES-PETIT (PROFESSEUR) was sent is as the > correction. > > FUUM research > vessel FV 597718? > 1982 2001 > Port-Vendres. Length 20.4 m. Spelling variations "Prof. Georges > Petit", "Prof. Georges-Petit", "Georges-Petit", "Georges Petit", > "GEORGES-PETIT (PROFESSEUR)". > > Link: > http://paleopolis.rediris.es/Phoronida/EMIG/Souvenirs/Navires/N-O.html > > Comment: Port-Vendres was sent in as a pennant number from IFREMER. It > is on the hull under the name. Also on the hull is FV 597718 or is it PV > 597718? > Does anyone have a clear picture of this vessel? > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms > > -- _ _| |_ (o o) ___________________________oOO-( )-OOo__________________________________ Michele FICHAUT - IFREMER/BREST - SISMER - B.P. 70 - 29280 PLOUZANE TEL:(33)02.98.22.46.43/(33)02.98.22.49.16 (secr.) FAX:(33)02.98.22.46.44 Email: Michele.Fichaut at ifremer.fr WWW : http://www.ifremer.fr/sismer/ ________________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090305/46dc9a9d/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Thu Mar 5 11:34:52 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:34:52 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Spain Atlantida Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFD7@coral.ices.local> Hi Platform group, Don has confirmed the code 29AI for the Spanish Atlantida. Cheers, Marilynn Suggested code: 29AI (letter I) Atlantida EGUK ship 8506062 19982003 Length 114m. Built 1988. Atlantida had Spanish flag (Feb.24 1988 - Dec.25 2003), then became MV Trinity Supporter with Belize flag (26 Dec. 2003-Feb. 28 2008), then became IT Interceptor with Barbados flag from Feb. 29 2008. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=207456 ~Marilynn -----Original Message----- From: Donald Collins [mailto:Donald.Collins at noaa.gov] Sent: 03 March 2009 17:15 To: Marilynn S?rensen Cc: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Platforms] Spain Atlantida All, Code 35AI (letter I) is in use at NODC for Spanish Vessel AILETTE (WOD Code 4049), callsign FUZB, built 1982. I would suggest using 35C5 for Spanish vessel Atlantida. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the Spanish vessel Atlantida. > > Suggested code: 35AI (letter I) > Atlantida EGUK > ship 8506062 > 19982003 > Length 114m. Built 1988. Atlantida had Spanish flag (Feb.24 > 1988 - Dec.25 2003), then became MV Trinity Supporter with Belize flag > (26 Dec. 2003-Feb. 28 2008), then became IT Interceptor with Barbados > flag from Feb. 29 2008. > > Lloyds: > http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=207456 > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens > Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 **************************************************************************** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com **************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Platforms mailing list Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms **************************************************************************** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com **************************************************************************** From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Thu Mar 5 11:56:17 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:56:17 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] Nulls Message-ID: Dear All, Another issue waiting in the wings is the ship code for 'unknown' - we've actually got 68 different ones: one per country. Embedding semantics in 'null metadata' is bad practice, but we do have one code (ZZ99) that means 'unknown' and nothing else. SeaDataNet needs an 'unknown' ship code, so I've proposed 'ZZ99'. If nobody has any objections I suggest we deprecate the other 67 mapped to 'ZZ99' in the same way as the 'multiple hull' issue has been handeled within RECO. Cheers, Roy. From MJesus.garcia at md.ieo.es Thu Mar 5 12:08:23 2009 From: MJesus.garcia at md.ieo.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Jes=FAs_Garc=EDa_Fern=E1ndez?=) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:08:23 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Nulls Message-ID: <6A3F4494B3E5D841B6A66A421ACCAAF604C70DFD@correo.md.ieo.es> I agree with the code "ZZ99". It will help us very much. Un saludo, Mar?a Jes?s Instituto Espa?ol de Oceanograf?a -----Mensaje original----- De: Roy Lowry [mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk] Enviado el: 05 March 2009 12:56 Para: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk Asunto: [Platforms] Nulls Dear All, Another issue waiting in the wings is the ship code for 'unknown' - we've actually got 68 different ones: one per country. Embedding semantics in 'null metadata' is bad practice, but we do have one code (ZZ99) that means 'unknown' and nothing else. SeaDataNet needs an 'unknown' ship code, so I've proposed 'ZZ99'. If nobody has any objections I suggest we deprecate the other 67 mapped to 'ZZ99' in the same way as the 'multiple hull' issue has been handeled within RECO. 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From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Thu Mar 5 12:10:27 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:10:27 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] Message from Michele on Georges Petit Message-ID: Dear All, Something very odd happened to the following message from Michele: I got it as a uncaught bounce. In case it didn't get through the text follows: Dear Colleagues, On the 2 pictures that you can see here http://paleopolis.rediris.es/Phoronida/EMIG/Souvenirs/Navires/images/GPetit.jpg http://antares.in2p3.fr/Overview/boats/gp.gif The same boat "Professeur Georges Petit" with 2 different paints : 1st one the name painted is PR GEORGES PETIT 2nd one : PROF. G. PETIT Just to say that what is painted on the hull may not bee a good idea. Best regards Mich?le All I can say is there are times when I despair. I went for the hull because it's less likely to vary when compared to written documents. Just what is authoritative????? The problem isn't just with small ships. In published documentation the current CEFAS flagship is referred to as 'CEFAS ENDEAVOUR', 'CEFAS Endeavour', 'Cefas Endeavour' and 'ENDEAVOUR'. I think all we can do is agree amongst ourselves on a case by case basis giving weight to the opinion of the relevant national authority (i.e. Michele for our friend Georges), which gives us 'Professeur Georges Petit'. Cheers, Roy. From anne.che-bohnenstengel at bsh.de Thu Mar 5 12:15:04 2009 From: anne.che-bohnenstengel at bsh.de (Anne Che-Bohnenstengel) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:15:04 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Nulls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49AFC248.8090506@bsh.de> It's OK for BSH. Anne Roy Lowry schrieb: > Dear All, > > Another issue waiting in the wings is the ship code for 'unknown' - we've actually got 68 different ones: one per country. Embedding semantics in 'null metadata' is bad practice, but we do have one code (ZZ99) that means 'unknown' and nothing else. > > SeaDataNet needs an 'unknown' ship code, so I've proposed 'ZZ99'. If nobody has any objections I suggest we deprecate the other 67 mapped to 'ZZ99' in the same way as the 'multiple hull' issue has been handeled within RECO. > > Cheers, Roy. > > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- MfG, Anne Che-Bohnenstengel --------------------------------------------------------- Bundesamt fuer Seeschifffahrt und Hydrographie (BSH) Anne Che-Bohnenstengel (M4282) Bernhard-Nocht-Str. 78 Tel: +49 (0) 40 3190-3484 20359 Hamburg Fax: +49 (0) 40 3190-5000 http://www.bsh.de/ email: anne.che-bohnenstengel at bsh.de --------------------------------------------------------- From marilynn at ices.dk Thu Mar 5 13:19:43 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:19:43 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Nulls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFD9@coral.ices.local> Dear All, I agree that we should not have "unknown" per country. However, I would like to take this a little farther to also address other platform classes currently coded individually for a country, for example, helicoptors (06HP, 32HP), divers (33DV), fixed platforms or stations (09FS, 18FX, 267F) etc.. How about a more direct link to the platform classes (BODC/SeaDatanet L06 list) using some identifier plus the existing code in L06? This would allow mapping the existing country-based unknowns to one "unknown" code, but also for mapping other "unspecified" platform classes that are currently linked individually to country. For example, here AA is the identifier and the last 2 digits are the L06 codes: AA00 UNSPECIFIED PLATFORM AA13 UNSPECIFIED BEACH/INTERTIDAL ZONE STRUCTURE AA14 UNSPECIFIED LAND/ONSHORE STRUCTURE AA16 UNSPECIFIED OFFSHORE STRUCTURE AA17 UNSPECIFIED COASTAL STRUCTURE AA30 UNSPECIFIED SHIP AA31 UNSPECIFIED RESEARCH VESSEL AA32 UNSPECIFIED VESSEL OF OPPORTUNITY AA33 UNSPECIFIED SELF-PROPELLED SMALL BOAT AA35 UNSPECIFIED VESSEL OF OPPORTUNITY ON FIXED ROUTE AA36 UNSPECIFIED FISHING VESSEL AA39 UNSPECIFIED NAVAL VESSEL AA3A UNSPECIFIED MAN-POWERED SMALL BOAT AA41 UNSPECIFIED MOORED SURFACE BUOY AA42 UNSPECIFIED DRIFTING SURFACE FLOAT AA46 UNSPECIFIED DRIFTING SUBSURFACE PROFILING FLOAT AA61 UNSPECIFIED RESEARCH AEROPLANE AA67 UNSPECIFIED HELICOPTER AA71 UNSPECIFIED HUMAN AA72 UNSPECIFIED DIVER A default mapping of "xx99" would then go to AA00, helicopters to AA67 etc. Cheers, Marilynn -----Original Message----- From: platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Roy Lowry Sent: 05 March 2009 12:56 To: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk Subject: [Platforms] Nulls Dear All, Another issue waiting in the wings is the ship code for 'unknown' - we've actually got 68 different ones: one per country. Embedding semantics in 'null metadata' is bad practice, but we do have one code (ZZ99) that means 'unknown' and nothing else. SeaDataNet needs an 'unknown' ship code, so I've proposed 'ZZ99'. If nobody has any objections I suggest we deprecate the other 67 mapped to 'ZZ99' in the same way as the 'multiple hull' issue has been handeled within RECO. Cheers, Roy. _______________________________________________ Platforms mailing list Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms **************************************************************************** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com **************************************************************************** From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Thu Mar 5 13:41:06 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:41:06 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] Nulls Message-ID: Hi Marilynn, Whilst I'm all for getting rid of our other shoe-horning codes (e.g. 'helicopter') and repetitions by country I think that using the codes in the way you suggest commits three cardinal sins. First, it is embedding semantics into the code, in this case mapping platform type in just the same way as we've mapped countries using the first two digits. Secondly, it sets up what I call a 'semantically loaded null', which is a null that carries additional information. Nulls should be pure and conform to the OGC standard definitions (Unknown, Inapplicable etc.). Thirdly, it is polluting the entity. Our entity definition is an instance of hull/name/governance. It is a single, physical object that given a time machine you could go and touch. What you are proposing is setting up codes for 'platform classes'. Hjalte eloquently paraphrased the problem in the discussion on inclusion of ISO3166-2 in country codes by saying ''it's mixing apples and oranges". I know we already have codes for platform classes (helicopter) and even spatial coverages (Route: Folkestone - Boulogne). However, we should be working towards finding ways to eliminate these, not create more. Cheers, Roy. >>> Marilynn S?rensen 3/5/2009 1:19 pm >>> Dear All, I agree that we should not have "unknown" per country. However, I would like to take this a little farther to also address other platform classes currently coded individually for a country, for example, helicoptors (06HP, 32HP), divers (33DV), fixed platforms or stations (09FS, 18FX, 267F) etc.. How about a more direct link to the platform classes (BODC/SeaDatanet L06 list) using some identifier plus the existing code in L06? This would allow mapping the existing country-based unknowns to one "unknown" code, but also for mapping other "unspecified" platform classes that are currently linked individually to country. For example, here AA is the identifier and the last 2 digits are the L06 codes: AA00 UNSPECIFIED PLATFORM AA13 UNSPECIFIED BEACH/INTERTIDAL ZONE STRUCTURE AA14 UNSPECIFIED LAND/ONSHORE STRUCTURE AA16 UNSPECIFIED OFFSHORE STRUCTURE AA17 UNSPECIFIED COASTAL STRUCTURE AA30 UNSPECIFIED SHIP AA31 UNSPECIFIED RESEARCH VESSEL AA32 UNSPECIFIED VESSEL OF OPPORTUNITY AA33 UNSPECIFIED SELF-PROPELLED SMALL BOAT AA35 UNSPECIFIED VESSEL OF OPPORTUNITY ON FIXED ROUTE AA36 UNSPECIFIED FISHING VESSEL AA39 UNSPECIFIED NAVAL VESSEL AA3A UNSPECIFIED MAN-POWERED SMALL BOAT AA41 UNSPECIFIED MOORED SURFACE BUOY AA42 UNSPECIFIED DRIFTING SURFACE FLOAT AA46 UNSPECIFIED DRIFTING SUBSURFACE PROFILING FLOAT AA61 UNSPECIFIED RESEARCH AEROPLANE AA67 UNSPECIFIED HELICOPTER AA71 UNSPECIFIED HUMAN AA72 UNSPECIFIED DIVER A default mapping of "xx99" would then go to AA00, helicopters to AA67 etc. Cheers, Marilynn -----Original Message----- From: platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Roy Lowry Sent: 05 March 2009 12:56 To: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk Subject: [Platforms] Nulls Dear All, Another issue waiting in the wings is the ship code for 'unknown' - we've actually got 68 different ones: one per country. Embedding semantics in 'null metadata' is bad practice, but we do have one code (ZZ99) that means 'unknown' and nothing else. SeaDataNet needs an 'unknown' ship code, so I've proposed 'ZZ99'. If nobody has any objections I suggest we deprecate the other 67 mapped to 'ZZ99' in the same way as the 'multiple hull' issue has been handeled within RECO. Cheers, Roy. _______________________________________________ Platforms mailing list Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms **************************************************************************** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com **************************************************************************** From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Thu Mar 5 16:45:09 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Platforms] Help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B00195.6050305@noaa.gov> Roy, Data currently associated to 35A6 ARAGO at USNODC are part of NODC Accession 9800057 (http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/accession/9800057), which are GTSPP data received on exchange from IFREMER. ARAGO is identified with a callsign of FYCV, not FAGY in the file at http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/archive/arc0001/9800057/01-version/data/0-data/9800057.txt These data were collected 20 Oct 1996 and are also accessible from the GTSPP database. Based on this info, the survey vessel seems more likely. Perhaps FAGY is the callsign for the destroyer formerly known as Somali? Hopes this helps. Cheers, Don Roy Lowry wrote: > Dear All, > > There is some confusion about the vessel to which the USNODC/ICES ship code '35A6 Arago (FAGY)' refers. There are two possibilities. > > A destroyer named Somali converted to an 'experimental vessel' in 1968 and renamed Arago active until 1974. > > A survey ship active from 1991 until 2002 when she was converted into a maritime patrol ship. > > I know SISMER have 1 CSR record mapped to 35A6 dating from 1968. If anybody else has dated metadata associated with this code could they please let me know so thet we can assign the correct extended metadata to the code. > > Your help would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, Roy. > > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Fri Mar 6 07:58:20 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:58:20 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] Fwd: RE: Help please Message-ID: Hi Else, I got this as a bounce. Are you sure you're using the correct e-mail (platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk or platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk. If you use platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk it comes to me as an error, but nobody else. Cheers, Roy. Else's message follows..... >>> "Else Juul Green" 3/6/2009 7:27 am >>> ICES has data from below listed cruise (MEDATLAS 2002) *FI35196800191 S.H 04-68 35A6 ARAGO 23/04/1968 02/05/1968 MED. WESTERN BASIN 35 MUSEE OCEANOGRAPHIQUE DE MONACO / SHOM A destroyer named Somali converted to an 'experimental vessel' in 1968 and renamed Arago active until 1974. Else Juul Green Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea Email else at ices.dk Web: www.ices.dk Tel: +45 3338 6717 Fax: +45 3393 4215 H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark -----Original Message----- From: Accessions Sent: 05 March 2009 18:21 To: Else Juul Green Subject: FW: [Platforms] Help please Hi Else, Can you help Roy? I have attached Don's reply. We have a CSR for Arago dating from 1968 but do we have any other data? Thanks, Marilynn -----Original Message----- From: platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Roy Lowry Sent: 09 February 2009 13:24 To: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk Subject: [Platforms] Help please Dear All, There is some confusion about the vessel to which the USNODC/ICES ship code '35A6 Arago (FAGY)' refers. There are two possibilities. A destroyer named Somali converted to an 'experimental vessel' in 1968 and renamed Arago active until 1974. A survey ship active from 1991 until 2002 when she was converted into a maritime patrol ship. I know SISMER have 1 CSR record mapped to 35A6 dating from 1968. If anybody else has dated metadata associated with this code could they please let me know so thet we can assign the correct extended metadata to the code. Your help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Roy. _______________________________________________ Platforms mailing list Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms **************************************************************************** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com **************************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Header Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1111 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/4badefa9/attachment-0001.obj From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Fri Mar 6 08:23:48 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:23:48 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] Help please Message-ID: Thanks Don, Looks like we have a bit of a problem here. The information I have from Michele is that they have one cruise for '35A6 Arago' from 1968. ICES also have '35A6 Arago' data from the same year, which I'm pretty sure is the same data as it's part of the MEDATLAS data set. This certainly from the 'destroyer formerly known as Somali'. Then you report that you have data from IFREMER (Coriolis?) collected in 1996 tagged '35A6 Arago', which is certainly a different ship as its over 20 years after our converted destroyer was converted that is most likely http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/content/download/44605/445106/file/arago%20P675.pdf, which worked as a survey vessel from 1991 to 2002. The callsign FAGY came from Michele's spreadsheet which, with the exception of a URL for the survey vessel, describes our ex-destroyer so it seems credible that your conclusion is correct. So, out in the wild we have the code 35A6 labelling two completely different 'Aragos'. The only way I can see out of this is to invoke our 'multiple hulls' procedure making 35A6 a deprecated (but still accessible) code for 'Arago multiple hulls' and setting up two new codes, one for the ex-destroyer and one for the survey vessel. Or does anybody have any better ideas? Cheers, Roy. >>> Donald Collins 3/5/2009 4:45 pm >>> Roy, Data currently associated to 35A6 ARAGO at USNODC are part of NODC Accession 9800057 (http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/accession/9800057), which are GTSPP data received on exchange from IFREMER. ARAGO is identified with a callsign of FYCV, not FAGY in the file at http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/archive/arc0001/9800057/01-version/data/0-data/9800057.txt These data were collected 20 Oct 1996 and are also accessible from the GTSPP database. Based on this info, the survey vessel seems more likely. Perhaps FAGY is the callsign for the destroyer formerly known as Somali? Hopes this helps. Cheers, Don Roy Lowry wrote: > Dear All, > > There is some confusion about the vessel to which the USNODC/ICES ship code '35A6 Arago (FAGY)' refers. There are two possibilities. > > A destroyer named Somali converted to an 'experimental vessel' in 1968 and renamed Arago active until 1974. > > A survey ship active from 1991 until 2002 when she was converted into a maritime patrol ship. > > I know SISMER have 1 CSR record mapped to 35A6 dating from 1968. If anybody else has dated metadata associated with this code could they please let me know so thet we can assign the correct extended metadata to the code. > > Your help would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, Roy. > > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Michele.Fichaut at ifremer.fr Fri Mar 6 09:33:34 2009 From: Michele.Fichaut at ifremer.fr (Michele FICHAUT) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:33:34 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B0EDEE.4040507@ifremer.fr> Hi everybody, Roy is perfectly right they are 2 different ships with the same name : The old ARAGO, destroyer, 1968-1974, previoulsy called SOMALI, ship code FAGY and a recent ARAGO, patrol boat, 1990 - still active, ship code FYCV It's the same story than BEAUTEMPS-BEAUPRE 35B5 and 35B6...... regards Mich?le Roy Lowry a ?crit : > Thanks Don, > > Looks like we have a bit of a problem here. The information I have from Michele is that they have one cruise for '35A6 Arago' from 1968. ICES also have '35A6 Arago' data from the same year, which I'm pretty sure is the same data as it's part of the MEDATLAS data set. This certainly from the 'destroyer formerly known as Somali'. > > Then you report that you have data from IFREMER (Coriolis?) collected in 1996 tagged '35A6 Arago', which is certainly a different ship as its over 20 years after our converted destroyer was converted that is most likely http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/content/download/44605/445106/file/arago%20P675.pdf, which worked as a survey vessel from 1991 to 2002. > > The callsign FAGY came from Michele's spreadsheet which, with the exception of a URL for the survey vessel, describes our ex-destroyer so it seems credible that your conclusion is correct. > > So, out in the wild we have the code 35A6 labelling two completely different 'Aragos'. The only way I can see out of this is to invoke our 'multiple hulls' procedure making 35A6 a deprecated (but still accessible) code for 'Arago multiple hulls' and setting up two new codes, one for the ex-destroyer and one for the survey vessel. Or does anybody have any better ideas? > > Cheers, Roy. > > >>>> Donald Collins 3/5/2009 4:45 pm >>> >>>> > Roy, > Data currently associated to 35A6 ARAGO at USNODC are part of NODC > Accession 9800057 (http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/accession/9800057), which > are GTSPP data received on exchange from IFREMER. ARAGO is identified > with a callsign of FYCV, not FAGY in the file at > http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/archive/arc0001/9800057/01-version/data/0-data/9800057.txt > > These data were collected 20 Oct 1996 and are also accessible from the > GTSPP database. Based on this info, the survey vessel seems more likely. > Perhaps FAGY is the callsign for the destroyer formerly known as Somali? > > Hopes this helps. > Cheers, > Don > > Roy Lowry wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> There is some confusion about the vessel to which the USNODC/ICES ship code '35A6 Arago (FAGY)' refers. There are two possibilities. >> >> A destroyer named Somali converted to an 'experimental vessel' in 1968 and renamed Arago active until 1974. >> >> A survey ship active from 1991 until 2002 when she was converted into a maritime patrol ship. >> >> I know SISMER have 1 CSR record mapped to 35A6 dating from 1968. If anybody else has dated metadata associated with this code could they please let me know so thet we can assign the correct extended metadata to the code. >> >> Your help would be much appreciated. >> >> Cheers, Roy. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Platforms mailing list >> Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk >> http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms >> > > -- _ _| |_ (o o) ___________________________oOO-( )-OOo__________________________________ Michele FICHAUT - IFREMER/BREST - SISMER - B.P. 70 - 29280 PLOUZANE TEL:(33)02.98.22.46.43/(33)02.98.22.49.16 (secr.) FAX:(33)02.98.22.46.44 Email: Michele.Fichaut at ifremer.fr WWW : http://www.ifremer.fr/sismer/ ________________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re-registered in Panama 6 Oct 1993 and subsequently re-registered (Belize then Panama) before being broken in Singapore on 31 Aug 1997. Length 52m. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=104405 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/23b21f62/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Fri Mar 6 11:37:28 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:37:28 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK Keila Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFE3@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Keila. Suggested code: 74KJ Keila MHUW5 fishing vessel MFV 8908296 1989 K121 UK fishing vessel K121, chartered by FRS Aberdeen. Built in 1989, active as at Nov 2007. Length 27m. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=271490 This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/710bf068/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Fri Mar 6 12:56:37 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:56:37 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK City of Manchester Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFE6@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel City of Manchester. Suggested code: 744O (letter O) City of Manchester ship of opportunity on fixed route 7709980 1985-09-07 2007-06-01 Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1979 as the UK registered City of Hartlepool (74AY). Re-registered in the Bahamas 3 Sep 1984 and renamed Laxfoss, then re-registered in the UK as City of Manchester (7Sep 1985). Re-registered in the Isle of Man 1 Nov 1991. Re-registered in the Netherlands Antilles as the City on 2 June 2007. Hull is active as at Oct 2007, length 104m. 74AY Laxfoss, City of Hartlepool Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=117016 Comment: Lloyds says Bahamas from 1984-09-03 to 1988-02-26 but will believe UK source. This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/dcc7872b/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Fri Mar 6 13:01:19 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:01:19 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] UK City of Hartlepool Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFE7@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, Additional information for the UK vessel City of Hartlepool code: 74AY City of Hartlepool ship of opportunity on fixed route 7709980 1979-05-14 1984-05-08 Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1979 as the UK registered City of Hartlepool (74AY). Re-registered in the Bahamas 3 Sep 1984 and renamed Laxfoss, then re-registered in the UK as City of Manchester (7Sep 1985). Re-registered in the Isle of Man 1 Nov 1991. Re-registered in the Netherlands Antilles as the City on 2 June 2007. Hull is active as at Oct 2007, length 104m. Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=117016 Comment: Lloyds says Bahamas from 1984-09-03 to 1988-02-26 but will believe UK source. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/928166f0/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Fri Mar 6 15:39:26 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:39:26 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Spain San Miguel Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFEC@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Spanish vessel San Miguel. Suggested code: 29SM San Miguel 1943 MMSI: 224236840. Boat Registration: 3? - TE - 1 - 2306. Length: 12.9m. Owner: MEDEROS, B., MEDEROS, A., RODRIGUEZ, C. This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/7506b21f/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Fri Mar 6 16:02:55 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:02:55 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Spain IRIMAR DEL CARMEN Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFED@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Spanish vessel IRIMAR DEL CARMEN. Suggested code: 29IC (letter I) IRIMAR DEL CARMEN 1971 MMSI: 224236760. Boat Registration: 3? - TE - 1 - 3699. Length : 10.3m. Owner: by MONTESDEOCA J.A JOSE GREGORIO This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/f6be63fd/attachment-0001.html From marilynn at ices.dk Fri Mar 6 16:42:20 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:42:20 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Turkey Lamas-1 Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFEE@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Turkish vessel Lamas-1. Suggested code: 89LM Lamas-1 R/V TC4150 Fishing Vessel 1981 Active as of March 2009. Trawler, built in 1981. Lenght 16 m. Owner: IMS METU, Turkey Link: http://www.ims.metu.edu.tr/index.asp?doc=equipment/index.htm Comment: Lamas is name in link but requested as Lamas-1. This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/66c98d5a/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Fri Mar 6 16:49:19 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:49:19 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Turkey Erdemli Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFEF@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Turkish vessel Erdemli. Suggested code: 89ER Erdemli R/V TC4149 research vessel 1979 Active as of March 2009. Wooden hull sail boat, built in 1979. Lenght 17 m. Owner: IMS METU, Turkey Link: http://www.ims.metu.edu.tr/index.asp?doc=equipment/index.htm Comment: Information in link contradicted requested commission year "1975". Changed 1975 to 1979. This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090306/9938d0f0/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 10 09:46:24 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:46:24 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Germany SCHWEDENECK Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708C004@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, Additional information and a spelling change has come in for the German vessel SCHWEDENECK. Code: 06SC SCHWEDENECK DRMF vessel of opportunity 8521438 Built 1987-09, DWT is 328 Comment: Spelling error "SCHWEDNECK" changed to "SCHWEDENECK" 2009-03-10. URLs: http://e-ships.net/index/S7.shtml, http://www.vesseltracker.com/de/Ships/Schwedeneck-8521438.html Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=207675 Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090310/26c1be87/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 10 10:46:45 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:46:45 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Marshall Island RICKMERS DALIAN Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708C006@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Marshall Island vessel RICKMERS DALIAN . Suggested code: MHRD RICKMERS DALIAN V7FS3 vessel of opportunity 9292022 24/11/2005 shipowner: RICKMERS REEDEREI HAMBURG - GERMANY, length 192 m. RICKMERS GENOA URLs: http://www.rickmers-linie.de/index.php?id=505&uid=28 ,http://marinelink.com/en-US/News/Article/Rickmers-Genoa-Completes-Series/322845.aspx Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=349477 Comment: Conflicting information on exact date of name change from Rickmers Genoa to Rickmers Dalian. This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090310/672f82f8/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 10 10:52:05 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:52:05 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Marshall Island RICKMERS Genoa Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708C007@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, To align with USNODC, the code MHRI has been added for the Marshall Island vessel RICKMERS Genoa. RICKMERS Genoa V7FS3 vessel of opportunity 9292022 28/02/2004 23/11/2005 shipowner: RICKMERS REEDEREI HAMBURG - GERMANY, length 192 m. Same vessel as RICKMERS DALIAN. URLs: http://www.rickmers-linie.de/index.php?id=505&uid=28 ,http://marinelink.com/en-US/News/Article/Rickmers-Genoa-Completes-Series/322845.aspx Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=349477 Comment: Conflicting information on exact date of name change from Rickmers Genoa to Rickmers Dalian. Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090310/5d8e947e/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Wed Mar 11 17:28:24 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:28:24 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Germany SCHWEDENECK Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708C016@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, Additional corrections have come in for the German vessel SCHWEDENECK. Code: 06SC SCHWEDENECK DRMF Naval vessel 8521438 Y860-862 Built 1987-09, DWT is 328 Comment: Spelling error "SCHWEDNECK" changed to "SCHWEDENECK" 2009-03-10. URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_Navy_ship_classes URLs: http://e-ships.net/index/S7.shtml , http://www.vesseltracker.com/de/Ships/Schwedeneck-8521438.html Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=207675 Cheers, Marilynn ---------------------------------------------------------- Marilynn S?rensen Data Manager International Council for the Exploration of the Sea H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 ________________________________ Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090311/600b1207/attachment.html From marilynn at ices.dk Thu Mar 12 09:41:05 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:41:05 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] Romania Steaua de Mare Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708C017@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform Group, A request has come in for a code for the Romanian vessel Steaua de Mare. To align with USNODC, the code 7301 should be used. Steaua de Mare R/V YQLA research vessel Year of build 1981. Length max is 25.8m, b=7.22m. Operated by the Romanian Marine Research Institute Dear platform group, Over the last few weeks a number of emails have been circulating for discussion regarding criteria and attributes for platforms and what triggers a new platform code assignment. It is very difficult to keep track of the various discussion threads especially as it involves reading back through a number of long emails and refers to many previous discussions that not everyone is aware of. To simplify the issues and make a clear plan for specific actions for the platform group, the Data centre has summarised in 2 tables the definitions of attributes - as we believe they now stand, and the criteria needed for creating a platform code or assigning a new code from an existing platform. We now ask that we use these tables and their associated actions points as the focus for our discussions. The new online platform code request system is in testing and it would help immensely if we are able to reach agreement on these issues as soon as possible. We are trying to take a pragmatic approach, knowing that the code list and process aren't perfect and there are many inherent flaws we are trying to eliminate or reduce while at the same time maintaining a functioning system that can be used to support the marine community that use platform codes. It is important that everyone in the platform group engages in this exercise to ensure we develop procedures and governance that address all potential issues. We look forward to receiving your response to this action document. Kind regards, Neil Neil Holdsworth Head of Data Centre International Council for the Exploration of the Sea Email: neil at ices.dk Web: www.ices.dk Tel: +45 3338 6718 Fax: +45 3393 4215 H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Read the latest ICES Data Centre e-News online -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090312/b3abc627/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: platformcode_matrix.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 39424 bytes Desc: platformcode_matrix.xls Url : http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/pipermail/platforms/attachments/20090312/b3abc627/attachment-0001.xls From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Thu Mar 19 09:09:05 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:09:05 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] New name, new code? Message-ID: Dear All, There are several issues raised by Neil's spreadsheet on when to assign a new code. I suggest that we discuss these one at a time to keep the discussion clear and help us reach closure. Here's the first issue of concern to me. The first issue is whether a new code should be assigned when a hull changes name. I feel strongly that it should. Consider the following example. RRS Charles Darwin was sold to Gardline and renamed Ocean Researcher. If no new code is issued then the name assigned to '74AB' is changed from Charles Darwin to Ocean Researcher. The effect of this on any 'simple' systems (like BODC, USNODC and many more) that store the code in metadata and dynamically translate in into a name using simple lookup is to wipe Charles Darwin from the metadata record. This is not what we require. What we want is the ability to label metadata from the code with the name of the ship as it was at the time of the cruise. (NB a new code was assigned to Ocean Researcher when I made this case to ICES before Marilynn took over the ship codes). I appreciate the complications new code new name causes, particularly with merchant ships that often change hands and names frequently, sometimes going back to the original name, but we have to live with this and use commissioned/decommissioned dates to document what happened. Howevere, I think we only need to bother with the periods of ships' histories when they were oceanographically active. I also appreciate that the ideal way to manage ships would be to have a code for the hull accompanied by a set of time stamped attributes front-ended by a lookup specifying both code and timestamp of required attributes(the way we manage organisations inside BODC). However, with the ship code system we inherited this is sadly impossible. Could people who agree with my view or can raise viable alternative arguments please let it be known on the list. Cheers, Roy. >>> "Neil Holdsworth" 3/12/2009 12:03 pm >>> Dear platform group, Over the last few weeks a number of emails have been circulating for discussion regarding criteria and attributes for platforms and what triggers a new platform code assignment. It is very difficult to keep track of the various discussion threads especially as it involves reading back through a number of long emails and refers to many previous discussions that not everyone is aware of. To simplify the issues and make a clear plan for specific actions for the platform group, the Data centre has summarised in 2 tables the definitions of attributes - as we believe they now stand, and the criteria needed for creating a platform code or assigning a new code from an existing platform. We now ask that we use these tables and their associated actions points as the focus for our discussions. The new online platform code request system is in testing and it would help immensely if we are able to reach agreement on these issues as soon as possible. We are trying to take a pragmatic approach, knowing that the code list and process aren't perfect and there are many inherent flaws we are trying to eliminate or reduce while at the same time maintaining a functioning system that can be used to support the marine community that use platform codes. It is important that everyone in the platform group engages in this exercise to ensure we develop procedures and governance that address all potential issues. We look forward to receiving your response to this action document. Kind regards, Neil Neil Holdsworth Head of Data Centre International Council for the Exploration of the Sea Email: neil at ices.dk Web: www.ices.dk Tel: +45 3338 6718 Fax: +45 3393 4215 H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Read the latest ICES Data Centre e-News online From NeilH at ices.dk Thu Mar 19 11:31:57 2009 From: NeilH at ices.dk (Neil Holdsworth) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:31:57 +0100 Subject: [Platforms] New name, new code? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B1270104DFDD@coral.ices.local> Hi Roy, To stay focused on your 1st issue, this relates to question 4 in the spreadsheet as what you are describing is a change in governance that causes a change in the name. So we need to be strict about how we attribute governance, as you are right that this would trigger a new code, but it's the governance not the name that is the trigger. Neil. -----Original Message----- From: platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Roy Lowry Sent: 19 March 2009 10:09 To: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk; Neil Holdsworth Cc: Hjalte Parner Subject: [Platforms] New name, new code? Dear All, There are several issues raised by Neil's spreadsheet on when to assign a new code. I suggest that we discuss these one at a time to keep the discussion clear and help us reach closure. Here's the first issue of concern to me. The first issue is whether a new code should be assigned when a hull changes name. I feel strongly that it should. Consider the following example. RRS Charles Darwin was sold to Gardline and renamed Ocean Researcher. If no new code is issued then the name assigned to '74AB' is changed from Charles Darwin to Ocean Researcher. The effect of this on any 'simple' systems (like BODC, USNODC and many more) that store the code in metadata and dynamically translate in into a name using simple lookup is to wipe Charles Darwin from the metadata record. This is not what we require. What we want is the ability to label metadata from the code with the name of the ship as it was at the time of the cruise. (NB a new code was assigned to Ocean Researcher when I made this case to ICES before Marilynn took over the ship codes). I appreciate the complications new code new name causes, particularly with merchant ships that often change hands and names frequently, sometimes going back to the original name, but we have to live with this and use commissioned/decommissioned dates to document what happened. Howevere, I think we only need to bother with the periods of ships' histories when they were oceanographically active. I also appreciate that the ideal way to manage ships would be to have a code for the hull accompanied by a set of time stamped attributes front-ended by a lookup specifying both code and timestamp of required attributes(the way we manage organisations inside BODC). However, with the ship code system we inherited this is sadly impossible. Could people who agree with my view or can raise viable alternative arguments please let it be known on the list. Cheers, Roy. >>> "Neil Holdsworth" 3/12/2009 12:03 pm >>> Dear platform group, Over the last few weeks a number of emails have been circulating for discussion regarding criteria and attributes for platforms and what triggers a new platform code assignment. It is very difficult to keep track of the various discussion threads especially as it involves reading back through a number of long emails and refers to many previous discussions that not everyone is aware of. To simplify the issues and make a clear plan for specific actions for the platform group, the Data centre has summarised in 2 tables the definitions of attributes - as we believe they now stand, and the criteria needed for creating a platform code or assigning a new code from an existing platform. We now ask that we use these tables and their associated actions points as the focus for our discussions. The new online platform code request system is in testing and it would help immensely if we are able to reach agreement on these issues as soon as possible. We are trying to take a pragmatic approach, knowing that the code list and process aren't perfect and there are many inherent flaws we are trying to eliminate or reduce while at the same time maintaining a functioning system that can be used to support the marine community that use platform codes. It is important that everyone in the platform group engages in this exercise to ensure we develop procedures and governance that address all potential issues. We look forward to receiving your response to this action document. Kind regards, Neil Neil Holdsworth Head of Data Centre International Council for the Exploration of the Sea Email: neil at ices.dk Web: www.ices.dk Tel: +45 3338 6718 Fax: +45 3393 4215 H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Read the latest ICES Data Centre e-News online _______________________________________________ Platforms mailing list Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms ************************************************************************ **** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com ************************************************************************ **** From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Fri Mar 20 19:57:42 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:57:42 -0400 Subject: [Platforms] UK Keila In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFE3@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFE3@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49C3F536.4000205@noaa.gov> All, The code for the UK vessel Keila is confirmed by NOAA on 20 March 2009. cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel Keila. > > > Suggested code: 74KJ > > > > Keila MHUW5 fishing vessel MFV 8908296 1989 K121 UK fishing vessel K121, chartered by FRS Aberdeen. Built in 1989, active as at Nov 2007. Length 27m. > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=271490 > > > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From Donald.Collins at noaa.gov Fri Mar 20 20:04:57 2009 From: Donald.Collins at noaa.gov (Donald Collins) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:04:57 -0400 Subject: [Platforms] UK City of Manchester In-Reply-To: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFE6@coral.ices.local> References: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708BFE6@coral.ices.local> Message-ID: <49C3F6E9.9080705@noaa.gov> All, ICES request for a code for the UK vessel City of Manchester is confirmed by NOAA on 20 March 2009. Cheers, Don Marilynn S?rensen wrote: > Dear Platform Group, > > A request has come in for a code for the UK vessel City of Manchester. > > > Suggested code: 744O (letter O) > > > > City of Manchester ship of opportunity on fixed route 7709980 > > 1985-09-07 2007-06-01 > > Container vessel used as ship of opportunity to collect CPR data for SAHFOS. Built in 1979 as the UK registered City of Hartlepool (74AY). Re-registered in the Bahamas 3 Sep 1984 and renamed Laxfoss, then re-registered in the UK as City of Manchester (7Sep 1985). Re-registered in the Isle of Man 1 Nov 1991. Re-registered in the Netherlands Antilles as the City on 2 June 2007. Hull is active as at Oct 2007, length 104m. > > 74AY Laxfoss, City of Hartlepool > > > > Lloyds: http://www.lloydsmiu.com/lmiu/vessels/overview.htm?vesselID=117016 > > > > Comment: Lloyds says Bahamas from 1984-09-03 to 1988-02-26 but will believe UK source. > > > > This suggestion will need confirmation by NOAA. > > Cheers, > Marilynn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Marilynn S?rensen > Data Manager > International Council for the Exploration of the Sea > H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46, 1553 Copenhagen V. > Denmark > > Direct tel: +45 33 38 67 20 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Platforms mailing list > Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk > http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms -- Donald W. Collins Oceanographer National Oceanographic Data Center NOAA/NESDIS/NODC E/OC1 SSMC3 Fourth Floor 1315 East West Highway Silver Spring MD 20910-3282 Donald.Collins at noaa.gov http://www.nodc.noaa.gov Telephone: 301.713.3272 xtn 154 Fax: 301.713.3302 From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Tue Mar 24 08:15:03 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:15:03 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] New name, new code? Message-ID: Hi Neil, I totally agree that our only way of recording governance is weak. However, I'm not convinced that issuing a new code on a name change only when governance changes is the best thing to do. The world of seafarers is one with which I am not totally familiar and it keeps delivering me surprises. It's also one where getting detailed information can be akin to getting blood out of a stone. >From what I can see, it is perfectly possible for a governance to rename a ship part way through their ownership of her. The UK Navy seems to do this quite frequently, such as the new HMS Endurance that served for a while as HMS Polar Circle. I think that this should be sufficient to require a new code. If not, 'HMS Polar Circle' simply disappears from the record. Having said this we need to be careful to ascertain what represents a change of name. Quite often multiple names are in use for a single ship in parallel due to differences in spelling or degree of abbreviation. We need to be careful not to give each of these a separate code. As it's related, I will now move onto your Q4. First, I appreciate the risks in defining ship's country as 'flag' (country of registration), through issues like flags of convenience but it seems to be the unit of currency of the maritime industry and therefore is readily accessible. The only alternative I can see would be to use 'country of governance organisation', which could be equally unstable, could possibly be more vague and more difficult to obtain for legacy codes. I would therefore support 'flag'. Secondly, I like the idea of labelling codes with information on who was using the ship for what, but with an 'ownership' attribute we need to be very careful. My first concern is how would the organisation be represented - plaintext name or reference in a standard address book like EDMO? Then we have the problem of defining a ship's 'governance'. Look at how the main German vessels are managed with a commercial company engaged to run the ships for an example of possible problems. Who would we take as the governance for Meteor? Finally, what would we do if a governing organisation changed - say it was taken over by another? I know I introduced the idea of creating new codes on governance change, but I'm starting to have serious doubts. Cheers, Roy. >>> "Neil Holdsworth" 03/19/09 11:31 AM >>> Hi Roy, To stay focused on your 1st issue, this relates to question 4 in the spreadsheet as what you are describing is a change in governance that causes a change in the name. So we need to be strict about how we attribute governance, as you are right that this would trigger a new code, but it's the governance not the name that is the trigger. Neil. -----Original Message----- From: platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Roy Lowry Sent: 19 March 2009 10:09 To: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk; Neil Holdsworth Cc: Hjalte Parner Subject: [Platforms] New name, new code? Dear All, There are several issues raised by Neil's spreadsheet on when to assign a new code. I suggest that we discuss these one at a time to keep the discussion clear and help us reach closure. Here's the first issue of concern to me. The first issue is whether a new code should be assigned when a hull changes name. I feel strongly that it should. Consider the following example. RRS Charles Darwin was sold to Gardline and renamed Ocean Researcher. If no new code is issued then the name assigned to '74AB' is changed from Charles Darwin to Ocean Researcher. The effect of this on any 'simple' systems (like BODC, USNODC and many more) that store the code in metadata and dynamically translate in into a name using simple lookup is to wipe Charles Darwin from the metadata record. This is not what we require. What we want is the ability to label metadata from the code with the name of the ship as it was at the time of the cruise. (NB a new code was assigned to Ocean Researcher when I made this case to ICES before Marilynn took over the ship codes). I appreciate the complications new code new name causes, particularly with merchant ships that often change hands and names frequently, sometimes going back to the original name, but we have to live with this and use commissioned/decommissioned dates to document what happened. Howevere, I think we only need to bother with the periods of ships' histories when they were oceanographically active. I also appreciate that the ideal way to manage ships would be to have a code for the hull accompanied by a set of time stamped attributes front-ended by a lookup specifying both code and timestamp of required attributes(the way we manage organisations inside BODC). However, with the ship code system we inherited this is sadly impossible. Could people who agree with my view or can raise viable alternative arguments please let it be known on the list. Cheers, Roy. >>> "Neil Holdsworth" 3/12/2009 12:03 pm >>> Dear platform group, Over the last few weeks a number of emails have been circulating for discussion regarding criteria and attributes for platforms and what triggers a new platform code assignment. It is very difficult to keep track of the various discussion threads especially as it involves reading back through a number of long emails and refers to many previous discussions that not everyone is aware of. To simplify the issues and make a clear plan for specific actions for the platform group, the Data centre has summarised in 2 tables the definitions of attributes - as we believe they now stand, and the criteria needed for creating a platform code or assigning a new code from an existing platform. We now ask that we use these tables and their associated actions points as the focus for our discussions. The new online platform code request system is in testing and it would help immensely if we are able to reach agreement on these issues as soon as possible. We are trying to take a pragmatic approach, knowing that the code list and process aren't perfect and there are many inherent flaws we are trying to eliminate or reduce while at the same time maintaining a functioning system that can be used to support the marine community that use platform codes. It is important that everyone in the platform group engages in this exercise to ensure we develop procedures and governance that address all potential issues. We look forward to receiving your response to this action document. Kind regards, Neil Neil Holdsworth Head of Data Centre International Council for the Exploration of the Sea Email: neil at ices.dk Web: www.ices.dk Tel: +45 3338 6718 Fax: +45 3393 4215 H.C. Andersens Boulevard 44-46 1553 Copenhagen V. Denmark Read the latest ICES Data Centre e-News online _______________________________________________ Platforms mailing list Platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk http://mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/platforms ************************************************************************ **** Denne mail er blevet scannet af http://www.virus112.com ************************************************************************ **** From rkl at bodc.ac.uk Tue Mar 24 08:48:37 2009 From: rkl at bodc.ac.uk (Roy Lowry) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:48:37 +0000 Subject: [Platforms] Code definitions (ICES Q1/Q2) Message-ID: Dear All, Starting a new thread. Basically, we're trying to decide on two things for the future ICES code management system. (1) Criteria for new code allocation (2) The syntax for the XML snippet we're using as a code definition. (1) is absolutely critical and being discussed under a separate thread, initially looking at names. The first two questions from ICES boil down to the definition schema. Stabilising this through agreement and even considering formalising it as an XML document that may be validated would be useful. The schema would define the attributes that have their own elements with all other information dumped into the plaintext bucket. To me Q1 boils down to "do we need 'previous' fields in the definition' or can we depend on an API allowing us to mine provenance information from a codes-related database at ICES. From my experience, most operational users will maintain local synchronised copies of vocabularies even when served they are served live and this mode of working would be better supported if the provenance is included in the definition XML. On this basis I would reject Q1, but note that this should not affect how ICES store the provenance information or that definition attributes should be the only way the provenance information is served. Q2 is an example of something that may happen more and more. As we've improved the ship metadata standard over the past couple of years 'length' has developed as an attribute that appeared more and more frequently in the dreaded section. It's very useful for differentiating hulls that don't qualify for IMO so seemed to deserve its own element to make it more accessible by parsing the definition. I can see this happening again in the future, which means our attribute list could well evolve. This has implications for the design of future versions of the code management system, which currently has a hard-coded attribute list. Cheers, Roy. From marilynn at ices.dk Tue Mar 31 15:49:10 2009 From: marilynn at ices.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marilynn_S=F8rensen?=) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:49:10 +0200 Subject: [Platforms] Correction/addition France ALIDADE 35D1 Message-ID: <4BA05716CBB9C24C911E746FE1A3B12708C096@coral.ices.local> Dear Platform group, We have received another correction and addition to the French vessel ALIDADE, code 35D1. ALIDADEnaval vessel1947-08-221960-02-26 Von RonzelenP660Length 56 m Cheers, Marilynn ________________________________ From: platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Accessions Sent: 17 February 2009 12:11 To: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk Subject: [Platforms] Correction/addition France ALIDADE 35D1 Dear Platform group, We have received a correction and addition to the French vessel ALIDADE, code 35D1. 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