[Platforms] Help please

Michele FICHAUT Michele.Fichaut at ifremer.fr
Fri Mar 6 09:33:34 GMT 2009


Hi everybody,

Roy is perfectly right they are 2 different ships with the same name :
The old ARAGO, destroyer, 1968-1974, previoulsy called SOMALI, ship code 
FAGY

and a recent ARAGO, patrol boat, 1990 - still active, ship code FYCV

It's the same story than BEAUTEMPS-BEAUPRE 35B5 and 35B6......

regards

Michèle



Roy Lowry a écrit :
> Thanks Don,
>
> Looks like we have a bit of a problem here.  The information I have from Michele is that they have one cruise for '35A6 Arago' from 1968.  ICES also have '35A6 Arago' data from the same year, which I'm pretty sure is the same data as it's part of the MEDATLAS data set.  This certainly from the 'destroyer formerly known as Somali'.
>
> Then you report that you have data from IFREMER (Coriolis?) collected in 1996 tagged '35A6 Arago', which is certainly a different ship as its over 20 years after our converted destroyer was converted that is most likely http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/content/download/44605/445106/file/arago%20P675.pdf, which worked as a survey vessel from 1991 to 2002.
>
> The callsign FAGY came from Michele's spreadsheet which, with the exception of a URL for the survey vessel, describes our ex-destroyer so it seems credible that your conclusion is correct.
>
> So, out in the wild we have the code 35A6 labelling two completely different 'Aragos'.  The only way I can see out of this is to invoke our 'multiple hulls' procedure making 35A6 a deprecated (but still accessible) code for 'Arago multiple hulls' and setting up two new codes, one for the ex-destroyer and one for the survey vessel.  Or does anybody have any better ideas?
>
> Cheers, Roy.
>
>   
>>>> Donald Collins <Donald.Collins at noaa.gov> 3/5/2009 4:45 pm >>>
>>>>         
> Roy,
> Data currently associated to 35A6 ARAGO at USNODC are part of NODC 
> Accession 9800057 (http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/accession/9800057), which 
> are GTSPP data received on exchange from IFREMER. ARAGO is identified 
> with a callsign of FYCV, not FAGY in the file at 
> http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/archive/arc0001/9800057/01-version/data/0-data/9800057.txt 
>
> These data were collected 20 Oct 1996 and are also accessible from the 
> GTSPP database. Based on this info, the survey vessel seems more likely. 
> Perhaps FAGY is the callsign for the destroyer formerly known as Somali?
>
> Hopes this helps.
> Cheers,
> Don
>
> Roy Lowry wrote:
>   
>> Dear All,
>>
>> There is some confusion about the vessel to which the USNODC/ICES ship code '35A6 Arago (FAGY)' refers.  There are two possibilities.
>>
>> A destroyer named Somali converted to an 'experimental vessel' in 1968 and renamed Arago active until 1974.
>>
>> A survey ship active from 1991 until 2002 when she was converted into a maritime patrol ship.
>>
>> I know SISMER have 1 CSR record mapped to 35A6 dating from 1968.  If anybody else has dated metadata associated with this code could they please let me know so thet we can assign the correct extended metadata to the code.
>>
>> Your help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers, Roy.
>>
>>
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