[Platforms] Fw: Fw: RUSSIAN FEDERATION - ATLANTIDA (NOAA Approved)

Wed Jan 2 13:11:32 GMT 2019

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From: Lowry, Roy K.
Sent: 02 January 2019 13:09
To: Accessions; platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [Platforms] Fw: RUSSIAN FEDERATION - ATLANTIDA (NOAA Approved)

Hi Anna,

Please ensure you include commissioned/decommissioned dates in the entry for RUAL and an explanation in the notes to make things crystal clear.

I did try and start a discussion a couple of months back as to whether the decision tree should be modified to abandon the practice of assigning new codes for a change of callsign, but received no response. My argument is that this was done to maintain a 1:1 relationship with the JCOMMOPS list (that used callsign as its primary key) but that this is no longer necessary. Any comments on this, in particular from JCOMMOPS? Or is there another reason for the practice?

I became concerned because callsigns for portable VHF transceivers that can be switched between vessels on a cruise by cruise basis are now being used.  For example code 26KH.

Cheers, Roy.

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From: Accessions <accessions at ices.dk>
Sent: 02 January 2019 10:40
To: Lowry, Roy K.; platforms at mailman.nerc-liv.ac.uk
Subject: RE: [Platforms] Fw: RUSSIAN FEDERATION - ATLANTIDA (NOAA Approved)

Dear Roy and the Platform Group,

Happy New Year 2019!

My apologies for not getting back to you on this sooner.

I would like to raise an objection to  deprecation the code RUAL (which existed since at least 1996) for the benefit of the RUJB as they have been created with different calls signs, and by the presently valid decision tree, they should remain as two different platform codes.

For additional information, call sign UTTU was used after change of flag, and changed to UALU only in 1997: http://fleetphoto.ru/ship/6905/

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I will revise the information for RUAL accordingly.

Best wishes,

Anna

From: Platforms <platforms-bounces at mail.nerc-liv.ac.uk> On Behalf Of Lowry, Roy K.
Sent: 01 January 2019 19:48
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Subject: [Platforms] Fw: RUSSIAN FEDERATION - ATLANTIDA (NOAA Approved)

Second attempt to circulate this......

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From: Lowry, Roy K.
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:07
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Subject: Re: [Platforms] RUSSIAN FEDERATION - ATLANTIDA (NOAA Approved)

Dear All,

Thanks to these changes we now have a clear history for two USSR/Russian vessels named Atlantida.

However, there is still the loose end of code RUAL, callsign UTTU (the USSR callsign for IMO 8607000) for which I have a set of pending attributes that would have set up an entry corresponding to the code RUJB. Unless anbody can raise an objection to this I would propose that RUAL be deprecated with a note stating that it is an unintended duplicate of code RUJB.

Cheers, Roy.

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Subject: [Platforms] RUSSIAN FEDERATION - ATLANTIDA (NOAA Approved)

Dear Platform Group,

NOAA has approved the code for the vessel ATLANTIDA<https://vocab.ices.dk/Request/Default.aspx?id=31828> from RU: RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

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Original Requester : Anna Osypchuk (anna.osypchuk at ices.dk<mailto:anna.osypchuk at ices.dk>)

Proposed Code : RUJB
Name : ATLANTIDA<https://vocab.ices.dk/Request/Default.aspx?id=31828>
Country(s) : RU: RUSSIAN FEDERATION (ISO Country Code)
Platform Class : 31: Research vessel
Call Sign : UALU
MMSI: 273242100
IMO : 8607000
Pennant : K-1704
Commissioned Date : 1997
Current Length : 62.22
Built : 1987
Notes : Research trawler operated by AtlantNIRO.

Information Sources:

- https://atlantniro.ru/index.php/issledovaniya/materialno-tekhnicheskaya-baza/flot2

- http://fleetphoto.ru/ship/6905/#n107953

- http://soviet-trawler.narod.ru/pages/ussr/list_of_atlantic_833.html

- http://meganorm.ru/Data2/1/4293762/4293762208.pdf

Same Vessels Info:
90ZO - ATLANTIDA

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General Comments:

Active as of 2018
(Anna Osypchuk 24/09/2018 00:00:00)

IMO confirmed in MIRAMAR and EQUASIS
(Anna Osypchuk 24/09/2018 00:00:00)

Call sign is in ITU
(Anna Osypchuk 24/09/2018 00:00:00)

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