[Seavox] Fwd: RE: Data Access Policy Vocabulary

[Roy Lowry]

Hi Julie,

Something strange happened to your message - I got it through the mailman 'bounce' mechanism so I include it below for the rest of the list members to see.  I'll also check out your membership details.

In answer to (1) I would argue that we are producing labels for datasets and that the base data constitutes a separate dataset from the synthesis carrying separate discovery metadata.  Thus the raw data could be labelled 'restricted' and the synthesis 'unrestricted'.

In answer to (2) I would propose making  the definition of 'at cost' broader.  What I'm trying to descriminiate between is the affordable and the extortionate!

Cheers, Roy.

>>> "Julie Gillin" <julie at ices.dk> 11/16/2006 8:10 am >>>
Dear Roy et al,

The list is a good start - I also agree with John's comments below.

However, I foresee at least two situations not covered:
1) Data released only in aggregated or anonymized or otherwise processed
form (to protect sources, economic interests, etc.)
2) Data delivered at cost to deliver + cost to collect (this model has
in fact been suggested in some discussions on the Data Collection
Regulation). This is thus supply-side-set, and thus not the same as
"charged at commercial rate" which is presumeably demand-side driven. 

Sincerely,
Julie



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Subject: Re: [Seavox] Data Access Policy Vocabulary

Roy,

Nice list, I will have to figure out how MMI can keep up with all the
vocabularies you're creating!

Some minor notes are below.  (I appreciate I'm not central to your
project, please feel free to ignore or otherwise adjust these inputs to
meet your goals.)

1) Another reason for a moratorium is pending validation (QC) of the
data. Perhaps this should be explicitly added to this item, or maybe it
results in a different category.

2) The phrase "However a correct value probably exists" raises the
question, what if it doesn't?  Do you want an additional category "not
defined" (the policy has not yet been set)?  Or maybe the phrase is not
needed.

3) Splitting hairs even further, if my data is freely available to
anyone but I would like acknowledgment, which of the categories
'unrestricted' and 'academic' is correct?  (I think you're combining "to
whom data is made available" and "is acknowledgement required", so this
is an ambiguous case.)

I note that this list conflates two concepts, cost and availability.
Ideally they would be separated.  As a practical matter it may not be
important in your context.

John

At 3:37 PM +0000 11/15/06, Roy Lowry wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>Attached is a vocabulary designed to fulfil the function of the
ISO19115 MD_RestrictionCode vocabulary for our more academic world. The
vocabulary has been built from two sources, the SEA-SEARCH CDI (a simple
subset of MD_RestrictionCode) and the EDIOS metadatabase, which has a
much bigger vocabulary that I've tried to distil down (see the EDIOS
sheet in the XLS file for the gory details, including the kind of  terms
you get in vocabularies built without governance e.g. 'see website').
>
>What I'm trying to achieve through this vocabulary is to provide the
discoverer of a dataset with a reasonably clear picture of the hoops
that need to be negotiated to get hold of the dataset.  Guess its really
a classification of data access policies.  Let me have any comments.
>
>Cheers, Roy.
>
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