[OntGov] [ICAN_Tech] help for ontology for Atlas of the lagoon

[Helly John J.]

Thanks, Roy.  I'll do some homework on those.
J.

On Apr 15, 2010, at 6:23 AM, Lowry, Roy K wrote:

Hi John,
 
The idea is that Alessandro would prepare files in a simple text format (say a CSV export out of Excel) that would then be uploaded into either the MMI ORR or the NDG Vocabulary Server.  Both of these systems serve standardised XML based on RDF/SKOS standards (note SKOS is now OWL-compatible). 
 
We’re not the only people heading down the SKOS trail: semantic web resources serving SKOS are starting to pop up like mushrooms and Simon Cox currently views SKOS as a potential replacement for the GML phenomenon disctionary.
 
Cheers, Roy.
 
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Sent: 15 April 2010 10:03
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Subject: Re: [OntGov] help for ontology for Atlas of the lagoon
 
Hi Alessandro.
 
I concur with Roy.  I found Protege to be difficult to employ and too distracting from the content generation that you need to focus on.
 
However, that leaves open the question of what format to use for your vocabulary files for interchange and interoperability.  Roy, do have anything in mind for specifying this?
 
J.
 
 
On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Lowry, Roy K wrote:


Hi Alessandro,
 
My advice would be to stay away from Protégé for what you want to do, which is to build a fairly straightforward vocabulary of the terms that you use to describe the features in your Atlas.  Initially, I would start to assemble the knowledge using more familiar tools – my personal preference is Excel.  What you need to build is spreadsheet containing at least two columns, one for terms (such as ‘lagoon’) and one for term definitions (such as ‘a body of water cut off from a larger body by a reef of sand or coral’).  I also tend to include a column of abbreviations as well, but this isn’t supported by all semantic frameworks.
 
If you like, once you have got that far you could submit the result to me to check out that the content you have proposed will work as a vocabulary, for example do all the terms refer to the same kind of entity, and offer suggestions if I think it will not.  This work would come under the remit of NETMAR and so would be attended to promptly. I could also call on the expertise available in the NETMAR ontology governance group if required.
 
When you have gathered your knowledge together, you have two alternative systems through which to expose it as a part of the ICAN ontology.  You can either hand it over to me to set it up as a vocabulary in the NERC Vocabulary server, or you can upload the result into the MMI Ontology Registry and Repository using the toolkit MMI have developed.  Carlos Rueda of MMI gave an excellent Webinar presentation on this yesterday to the ICAN Tech Team and I’m  sure he could make the slides available to you.
 
My plans for NETMAR involve building a seamless bridge between these two semantic resources, so it doesn’t really matter which Atlas vocabulary is in which repository.  However, as there are already ICAN resources, including the master umbrella ontology, in MMI and none in the NERC Vocabulary Server, it would help my NETMAR development work if you were to allow me to host your vocabulary.
 
Cheers, Roy.
 
From: Alessandro Mulazzani [mailto:alessandro.mulazzani at gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 April 2010 18:31
To: Lowry, Roy K; bermudez at sura.org; y.lassoued at ucc.ie
Cc: n.dwyer at ucc.ie
Subject: help for ontology for Atlas of the lagoon
 
Dear ICANers! Hope you are all fine!

I am writing to you three believing you are the right persons to ask some help about ontologies, but please, feel free to forward this email to any ICANer who can help with the issues below.

As agreed during ICAN 4, I am finally going to start to create an ontology for the Atlas of the lagoon of Venice in order to join the ICAN prototype, and I have some questions:

I am going to use Protege OWL. Do you thing is that appropriate?

Are there any up-to-date ontologies already created for coastal atlases by ICAN or others that I can use as examples, or that should be used as a reference?

Are there any ontologies for environmental atlases in general which are becomenig a sort of standard?

How the ontology can be linked with the metadata catalogue (geonetwork in our case?)

Thank you very much in advance for your help!

Best wishes!
Alessandro

www.silvenezia.it

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