[Platforms] ROMANIA - MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA

[Neil Holdsworth]

Hi Dick, Roy,

 

I disagree with your approach, i know this discussion has surfaced in the past and we seem to be at the same sticking point. The ‘unknown’ term is fine if it is in fact the case that no information is known about the vessel, but in these cases something is known and being deliberately overlooked in order to keep from adding new entries. I don’t like using ZZ99 as a ‘bucket code’ to place everything in that doesn’t meet with the simple model approach. This will cause us some headaches in the future with CSR’s if we simply use ZZ99, as the country listed in the CSR is not necessarily the country where the vessel was chartered from – and we will lose this information. 

 

So before you agree to lose this information, i want you to think about whether this is valuable information for someone looking at the historical data to have access to.

 

Thanks, Neil.

 

 

 

From: Dick M.A. Schaap [mailto:dick at maris.nl] 
Sent: 01 November 2010 13:10
To: Lowry, Roy K
Cc: Accessions; platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk; sdn-tech at seadatanet.org
Subject: Re: [Platforms] ROMANIA - MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA

 

Dear Roy,

I rather go for a general 'Unknown' term in the Vessel vocabulary than starting a whole list of:
MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA
MULTIPLE SHIPS OF BULGARIA 
etc
etc
etc

So I encourage using the ZZ99 term and not diluting the Vessel directory with all new entries.

Hope all colleagues agree.

Greetings,

Dick M.A. Schaap
SeaDataNet Technical Coordinator


On 01/11/2010 11:44, Lowry, Roy K wrote: 

Dear All,

 

In cases such as these we should simply use the generic ‘unknown’ ship code (ZZ99).  What guarantee do we have that the flags of these ships were Romanian?

 

I’ve copied this message to the SeaDataNet TTT list so discussion of this issue doesn’t need to wait until December.  

 

Cheers, Roy.

 

From: platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk [mailto:platforms-bounces at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk] On Behalf Of accessions at ices.dk
Sent: 01 November 2010 10:32
To: platforms at biwebs1.nerc-liv.ac.uk
Subject: [Platforms] ROMANIA - MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA

 

Dear Platform Group,

The code MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA from ROMANIA has been added according to the old definitions of "90" and "99" codes for unknown vessels. The topic of handling "unknown" codes has to be resolved by discussions at SeaDataNet at their next technical meeting.

Original Requester : Gabriel Ion (gion at geoecomar.ro)

Code : 7390
Name : MULTIPLE SHIPS OF ROMANIA
Flag : ROMANIA - RO (ISO Country Code)
Platform Class : Vessel of opportunity

General Comments:
We named UVOO_1 for any Unknown Vessel Of Opportunity used by GeoEcoMar prior to year 2002 
(added by: Gabriel Ion - 20/10/2010 00:00:00)


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